This is what a patriarchal church looks like: Russia Decriminalized Domestic Violence With Support f

[BobRyan]

Since no context is provided for the alleged quote, and the only mention of the Orthodox Church in the source article was its role in providing support for abused women, whether the quote is genuine or not, it is still out of context.

the context is obvious
"Russian President Vladimir Putin signed into law on Tuesday an amendment that decriminalizes domestic violence, making physical abuse of a spouse, child, or elder parent punishable by a monetary fine rather than time in prison. Both houses of Russian parliament approved the measure handily—the first reading of the amendment in the lower house passed 386 to one.

Under the new law, a person can beat his spouse or child until she’s bloodied and bruised, and as long as her injuries don’t require a hospital stay, he’ll get hit with a fine if his victim presses charges. The most jail time he’ll serve will be 15 days. Previously, domestic abusers faced a maximum of two years in prison. The amendment offers domestic abusers this easy out as long as they don’t commit more than one severe beating a year."

"Domestic violence only became a crime in Russia in summer 2016, when parliament decided that people who beat their spouses and family members should be punished as criminals. Now, survivors of domestic abuse must collect evidence and track doctors’ visits themselves before filing a complaint; since it’s no longer a criminal offense, police don’t have to investigate"

That is not difficult to understand.




RO comes in here "The Russian Orthodox Church has also pushed for looser restrictions on domestic abusers, claiming that the state should not interfere in family matters and that calls to make domestic violence a crime are informed by Western influences that want to impose liberal values on Russia."

Again not at all difficult to understand.

But there is no quote of the RO just a claim about what their position is.

someone else making the same claim about the RO

Is the Russian Orthodox Church Pushing Battered Women into Feminism?

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"In January 2017, the Orthodox Church and conservative members of parliament pushed though legislation that decriminalizes domestic violence. After the controversial amendment that Russian President Putin signed into law in February, only injuries like concussions or broken bones would lead to criminal charges. First-time offenders who do not cause serious medical damage will go without punishment. The Church said in a statement last year that physical punishment was a Russian tradition and thus should be protected as "an essential right given to parents by God." According to Russia's Interior Ministry, 40 percent of all grave violent crimes are committed in families.

When Tim Sebastian confronted the church official with this attitude ("Where's your compassion?"), Kipshidze said: "We are against violence in families. But we don’t want state to control internal family life."

It is a murkey situation at best. In America there is almost no support for putting parents in jail who spank small children. On the other hand domestic violence is condemned. But we do not support physical violence at all against spouses - was the RO really "clear" on that or is the RO claiming that physical violence against an adult child or spouse is ok as long as no bones are broken?

 

[prodromos]

the context is obvious
"Russian President Vladimir Putin signed into law on Tuesday an amendment that decriminalizes domestic violence, making physical abuse of a spouse, child, or elder parent punishable by a monetary fine rather than time in prison. Both houses of Russian parliament approved the measure handily—the first reading of the amendment in the lower house passed 386 to one.

Under the new law, a person can beat his spouse or child until she’s bloodied and bruised, and as long as her injuries don’t require a hospital stay, he’ll get hit with a fine if his victim presses charges. The most jail time he’ll serve will be 15 days. Previously, domestic abusers faced a maximum of two years in prison. The amendment offers domestic abusers this easy out as long as they don’t commit more than one severe beating a year."

"Domestic violence only became a crime in Russia in summer 2016, when parliament decided that people who beat their spouses and family members should be punished as criminals. Now, survivors of domestic abuse must collect evidence and track doctors’ visits themselves before filing a complaint; since it’s no longer a criminal offense, police don’t have to investigate"

That is not difficult to understand.




RO comes in here "The Russian Orthodox Church has also pushed for looser restrictions on domestic abusers, claiming that the state should not interfere in family matters and that calls to make domestic violence a crime are informed by Western influences that want to impose liberal values on Russia."

Again not at all difficult to understand.

But there is no quote of the RO just a claim about what their position is.

someone else making the same claim about the RO

Is the Russian Orthodox Church Pushing Battered Women into Feminism?

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"In January 2017, the Orthodox Church and conservative members of parliament pushed though legislation that decriminalizes domestic violence. After the controversial amendment that Russian President Putin signed into law in February, only injuries like concussions or broken bones would lead to criminal charges. First-time offenders who do not cause serious medical damage will go without punishment. The Church said in a statement last year that physical punishment was a Russian tradition and thus should be protected as "an essential right given to parents by God." According to Russia's Interior Ministry, 40 percent of all grave violent crimes are committed in families.

When Tim Sebastian confronted the church official with this attitude ("Where's your compassion?"), Kipshidze said: "We are against violence in families. But we don’t want state to control internal family life."

It is a murkey situation at best. In America there is almost no support for putting parents in jail who spank small children. On the other hand domestic violence is condemned. But we do not support physical violence at all against spouses - was the RO really "clear" on that or is the RO claiming that physical violence against an adult child or spouse is ok as long as no bones are broken?

The context of the Church quote given above was the spanking of children. The previous law would have made disciplining your child a jailable offence. The Church was in no way supporting husbands beating wives.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

We should also treat woman with equal status.

Well, the law you cite applies to domestic violence committed by women the same as it does when committed by men...