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He's quoting the Geneva Bible to demonstrate that the church held the belief that the prophecy of Daniel (including the 70th week) was fulfilled in Christ. BABerean2 wrote:You are quoting "footnotes". Someone's interpretation.
"(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection."
The resurrection is not mentioned in Daniel 9.
Daniel's prophecy states this (how else, if not by His resurrection, was this fulfilled......or are you still waiting fulfillment of His atonement for iniquity?):(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection."
The resurrection is not mentioned in Daniel 9.
You are quoting "footnotes". Someone's interpretation.
"(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection."
The resurrection is not mentioned in Daniel 9.
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See how they interpet 1John2:18, "and as you have heard antichrist shall come". I would like to know.
Jesus's appearance - as Messiah - is what "confirmed the covenant". His disciples being witnesses to His diety furthered the confirmation....in Jerusalem for the remaining 3.5 years after His ascension. The witness of the gift of the Holy Spirit further testified that Jesus was God....continuing the confirmation.
Tben....in God's perfect timing....Peter had a vision to bring the Gospel to the Gentiles (after the 490 years were completed). Jesus fulfilled the confirmation of the covenant promises. There was no reason for Him to instruct anyone.
We're still waiting for any Scriptural support for the assertion that the antichrist is involved in confirming God's covenant promises (specifically the already broken Mosaic Covenant and - as the author of Hebrews wrote - that covenant disappeared and a far superior covenant is in its place).
BaB2, why are you bringing up all those verses when there is no argument what the new covenant in Christ is?Doug,
The resurrection is also not mentioned in Jeremiah 31:31-34, or Hebrews 8:6-13, or most of the other passages which discuss the New Covenant.
Therefore, you are going to have to come up with something else to explain why the New Covenant is not found in Daniel 9.
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Jer_31:31 "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—
Mat_26:28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Mar_14:24 And He said to them, "This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many.
Luk_22:20 Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.
1Co_11:25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me."
2Co_3:6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
Heb_8:8 Because finding fault with them, He says: "BEHOLD, THE DAYS ARE COMING, SAYS THE LORD, WHEN I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND WITH THE HOUSE OF JUDAH—
Heb_8:13 In that He says, "A NEW COVENANT," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Heb_9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Heb_12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.
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Daniels people (all Israel) and Jerusalem have not finished THE transgression, they haven't made an end of sins, they have not reconciled iniquity,
That is all fanciful and spiritualizing passages.
Confirmation?
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
1. God created grammar so we can understand each other and people who wrote things.
2. The "he" of verse 27 must go back to its nearest antecedent which is the ruler of the people who will destroy the sanctuary (Rome) So he is a roman ruler.
3. He confirms a covenant for 1 7 (we know it 7 years). Jesus never made nor confirmed a covenant for 7 years!
4. Jesus did not cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease. He cause the covering of sin by the sacrifices to cease- but the sacrifices continued! It does not mean the effectiveness of the sacrifices but that after 3 1/2 years of that 7 year covenant- sacrifices cease! This follows exactly with Matt. 24 which is the abomination of desolation in the holy place!
5. Jesus even said when you see the one mentioned here in Daniel 9 26b-27 stand in the holy place. Jesus is not the one who for the overspreading of abominations he will make it desolate!
6. All this and the 36 names given to the "antichrist" throughout the rest of scripture let us know this is the antichrist!
7.Even revelation says that Israel flees for 42 months! 3 1/2 years or halfway through the 70th week of Daniel!
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
8. Daniels people (all Israel) and Jerusalem have not finished THE transgression, they haven't made an end of sins, they have not reconciled iniquity, everlasting righteousness has not been brought in to Israel and Jerusalem, vision and prophecy is not sealed, and Jesus has not been anointed yet as He will be!
Generally speaking the term antichrist is broadly misused.This is the thinking of the natural man, which is incapable of spiritual discernment.
1 Corinthians 2
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Who in the historical true Church prior to the 19th century ascribed the work of Christ in Daniel 9, to antichrist?
Names, dates, sources, quotes.
I have already gave you the counter connection between Jesus, a prince in scripture, and the Antichrist who will be instead of and against Jesus the rightful King of Israel, coming in his own name.Still awaiting your Scripture which unmistakably identifies antichrist as a prince.
Matthew Henry, around 1700.Who in the historical true Church prior to the 19th century ascribed the work of Christ in Daniel 9, to antichrist?
Names, dates, sources, quotes.
I have already gave you the counter connection between Jesus, a prince in scripture, and the Antichrist who will be instead of and against Jesus the rightful King of Israel, coming in his own name.
Futhermore, 25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
Before a person is anointed king, is he not a prince?
Matthew Henry, around 1700.
unmistakable is a relative term. The Jews mistake that Jesus is not the messiah who is cutoff in Daniel 9:26.Here again are the Scriptural examples of unmistakably.
Not "connections" of private interpretation.
Isaiah 9
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Daniel 9
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Revelation 1
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood.
unmistakably
[ˌənməˈstākəblē]
ADVERB
unmistakably (adverb)
- in a way that cannot be mistaken for anything else.
"I saw her there, clearly and unmistakably" · "the music sounds unmistakably English"
I went back and edited my post with link quoting Matthew Henry.Are you afraid to quote him?
How are those above going to make an end of sins, since they are not Christ?
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The Mosaic Covenant was hardly "good news" (Gospel) for the Israelites that had broken that covenant (which included exactly ALL of them).Jesus did not give instructions to confirm the gospel on a seven year cycle.
Moses did regarding the Mt. Sinai covenant.
How are you going to make and end of sins? Through Christ! One day we will as believers all cease from sin! Because of Him! So won't the surviving 1/3 of Jews who survive the tribulation as God declared in Zech. 13
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.
BTW making an end to sins, simply means finishing sinning!
I went back and edited my post with link quoting Matthew Henry.
The prince who shall come is not referring to Jesus as Matthew Henry claims.
unmistakable is a relative term. The Jews mistake that Jesus is not the messiah who is cutoff in Daniel 9:26.
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