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John Chrysostom was not the parable of the fig tree generation because Jesus did not return in John Chrysostom's day.That is an immensely flawed way of looking at things. The Bible says what it says. If one has to dismiss the historic views of the past in order to claim new revelations and inspiration then they are doing things very wrong.
-CryptoLutheran
It looks to me from that video that the Israeli government is doing some repair or upgrading to the covered enclosed walkway leading up to the temple mount. I think it is covered because the muslims (mostly women, I think, I could be wrong) were, at times of protest, throwing rocks down on people at they were going up to the temple mount.I can remember hearing about construction starting on that temple back in the 80s. Especially 1988 (40 years after 1948).
John Chrysostom was not the parable of the fig tree generation because Jesus did not return in John Chrysostom's day.
The book of Daniel indicates the time of the end events are unsealed for understanding and fulfillment, when the time of the end arrives. Daniel 12:4. Daniel 12:9.
The absolute proof the John Chrysotom's was not living in the time of the end is that Jesus did not return in John Chrysotom's day.
"the time of the end" means the time of the end of Satan and his angels' kingdom - that's what Revelation is talking about regarding mystery Babylon the Great. Most Christians, I sense, don't realize that though.
Satan and a third of the angels rebelled against God eons ago. Satan attempted to destroy man, by getting Adam to sin. Satan attempted to kill Jesus, and tempt him to sin, and then conspired to crucify Jesus. From eons ago to present - all the troubles in creation, heaven and earth, are because of Satan.
...but most Christians don't pick up their bible and began reading with that over-view and do not view Revelation that way either. So I will say think about what "the time of the end" actually means.
It is totally relevant, because you are promoting John Chrysostom's commentary on time of the end events, who did not have the understanding... in an eschatology forum made up by Christians who are actually the parable of the fig tree generation - when the understanding and fulfillment of those events is to take place.No one claimed John Chrysostom was living "in the time of the end", that's something you are introducing here and which is entirely irrelevant.
-CryptoLutheran
It is totally relevant, because you are promoting John Chrysostom's commentary on time of the end events, who did not have the understanding... in an eschatology forum made up by Christians who are actually the parable of the fig tree generation - when the understanding and fulfillment of those events is to take place.
A lot more so than John Chrysostom, because I am living in the parable of the fig tree generation.Okay, so John Chrysostom didn't have understanding. But you do? Why?
Because Jesus and the disciples as they were entering Jerusalem the week he would be crucified, rejected as the King of Israel by his own people, cursed a fig tee beside the road because it was out of season to produce any fruit.How did you decide that Christians living today are "the parable of the fig tree generation"? You don't just get to make something up and expect everyone to go along with it do you?
A lot more so than John Chrysostom, because I am living in the parable of the fig tree generation.
Because Jesus and the disciples as they were entering Jerusalem the week he would be crucified, rejected as the King of Israel by his own people, cursed a fig tee beside the road because it was out of season to produce any fruit.
So the fig tree is Jerusalem. And Jerusalem came back under Jewish control in 1967, which makes it possible for all the end times prophecies regarding Jerusalem to be fulfilled.
Israel became a nation again in 1948, which I was born in 1948, as well. God chooses us, we don't choose God. John Chrysostom was chosen to live during a different era... which doesn't change his dedication of Jesus... but as a matter of understanding, was not able to understand the end times events, as can be done in the parable of the fig tree generation.
Gog/Magog takes place in the latter days and latter years, when Israel is a nation again, it's people having come out the nations.Have you considered the possibility that the United Nations' resolution to partition part of the region of Palestine as a Jewish homeland is entirely irrelevant as it pertains to Christian eschatology?
Gog/Magog takes place in the latter days and latter years, when Israel is a nation again, it's people having come out the nations.
The end times infallible timeline framework is in Ezekiel 39. All pertaining to Christian eschatology.
Ezekiel 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.Says who?
No. Not talking about coming out of the Babylonian Captivity. Proof: No mass grave site in Israel of Gog's destroyed army. Ezekiel 39:3-16.In Ezekiel 39 God promises the return from exile, that happened under the reign of Cyrus the Great, with the rebuilding of the Temple under the governorship of Zerubbabel.
In Matthew 2415“So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),
Lord Jesus will come soon! And so will the Antichrist.
But stay awake at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are going to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.” (Luke 21:36)
Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? (2 Thess 2:1-17)
“So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand) Matthew 24:15
The Anitchrist will soon take over. Israel will accept him as their Messiah, they will even invite him to the temple, where God will out of his grace remove sin from their eyes so they will finally see and accept Jesus as Messiah, and only then, Jesus will return as written in Hosea 5:15 'I will return again to my place, until they acknowledge their guilt and seek my face, and in their distress earnestly seek me.'
It could, but the location of this "construction" is not on the Temple mount, it is out front by the Western Wall in the courtyard. The Temple has to have the Holy of Holies in the correct place, and this is not even on the mount. But again, this is not a Temple being built at all.In Matthew 2415“So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),
Jesus didn't use the word for the whole Temple complex, likewise in 2nd Thessalonians and Revelation 11 they use a word meaning only the "holy place".
My point is it doesn't need to be an elaborate complex to fulfill the prophecies of the AC. It could be a temporary structure such as Moses's tent. It could happen very quickly
Where do you get this info. "there will never be another temple". There certainly won't be one where God will dwell, is this what you mean ?Don't donate your temple building funds to that organization. Send it all to me and I will build the greatest temple, that the world has ever seen.
Seriously, there will never be another temple no matter what you have been told.
The 70 AD folks usually forget this one when dropping their timelines quipsIt's been almost 2000 years since AD70. So either you have a very funny way of interpreting "immediately after".. or it's incorrect to divide the discourse like that.
I didn't watch the video. There's a lot of disagreement on where the Temple stood. If they can start the sacrifices, the Jews will accept the location and sadly the ACIt could, but the location of this "construction" is not on the Temple mount, it is out front by the Western Wall in the courtyard. The Temple has to have the Holy of Holies in the correct place, and this is not even on the mount. But again, this is not a Temple being built at all.
No Orthodox Jew is going to accept a Temple anywhere but on the Temple mount. Reform don't believe in building another Temple to resume sacrifices, and Conservative Jews are split on the subject. There are some fringe groups that might, but they are far from the majority in Judaism.I didn't watch the video. There's a lot of disagreement on where the Temple stood. If they can start the sacrifices, the Jews will accept the location and sadly the AC
Why the search for the Red Heifer ? Both Jesus and Paul stated the AC would stand/take his seat in the Holy Place. They'll accept itNo Orthodox Jew is going to accept a Temple anywhere but on the Temple mount. Reform don't believe in building another Temple to resume sacrifices, and Conservative Jews are split on the subject. There are some fringe groups that might, but they are far from the majority in Judaism.
Red heifers are not as uncommon as many presume. The Orthodox that believe the Temple will be rebuilt will need it, but that does not mean that they are actively building anything. The groups that are actively putting Temple implements together are really on the fringe of Judaism, even though Christianity likes to focus on them....and invest in their endeavors. It's the Christians that are financing this more than the Jewish community.Why the search for the Red Heifer ? Both Jesus and Paul stated the AC would stand/take his seat in the Holy Place.
Some will, but most would not unless it was in the right place and a Halachic building. Otherwise it is just another "temple" and may as well be any other temple. It would not be kosher.They'll accept it
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