Theological thesis:God does not exist

[Eudaimonist]

But He is Existence, engage me

It seems to me that we have a word for Existence. That word is "Existence".

That makes the concept God superfluous... unless you want to attribute divine properties to what does exist. However, then you would certainly have to say that "God exists", and can't simply use God as a synonym for Existence.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Xalith]

God does not answer prayer.

Wait, what?

This is something I'd expect an atheist to say, not an actual Christian.

 

[Davian]

Yes and no, we are talking about theGod who walked and talked in the garden of Eden

And what about the global flood? and the age of the cosmos?

and no, if you talking anout evidence that is sucked out of the inadmissible techniques of carbon dating

Inadmissible to whom?

then we are not on the same page

I'm on the page where assertions are dismissed unless they are coherent, testable, and falsifiable. What page ore you on?

 

[Davian]

God is not "here".
God is not "real" or material.
God does not answer prayer.
God allows for death.
God allows for disease.
God allows for suffering.
God is invisible.
God cannot be examined.
God has not "returned" as has been written.

Thank you, Dr. Seuss.

Those are a few points that exist.

As opposed to gods, which are still hypothetical, for the purposes of this forum.

 

[Davian]

God spoke truth and it became all truths, Christ

Is it your intent here just to preach?

 

[Davian]

God does not answer prayer.

Wait, what?

This is something I'd expect an atheist to say, not an actual Christian.

 

[paulm50]

Theres a place in God in which He chose not to exist and thats a place calle evil, He chose not to be to give man a choice between perfection and imperfection we still have a choice
True there are many gods but only one cliams to be the True, not speaking truths, the Way and the Life

So god chooses to allow evil. Or he can't stop it.

Which god is true, with evidence.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Is this a joke?

 

[quatona]

But He is Existence, engage me

I don´t think we are in desperate need of a synonym for "existence".
On top of that, most statements about "God" in so called Holy Books don´t even make sense when you substitute them with "existence".

 

[Eudaimonist]

Let me put it this way.

If the word "God" is simply used to mean "Existence", then a purely scientific, conventionally atheistic, and metaphysically naturalistic Universe could be "God". God wouldn't be an aware or intelligent being, and would have no moral nature, but would as a whole simply be galaxies and plenty of near vacuum. Any awareness or intelligence would refer only to the tiniest of specks of "God" (e.g., us).

But this is not what theists (and deists) mean by "God". Even pantheists, unless they are "scientific pantheists", want the universe as a whole to have some special qualities, such as awareness.

It's clear that "God" doesn't truly mean "Existence" to theists. They see God as having additional, divine qualities.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[TheBarrd]

Well, I'm glad that's cleared up...

 

[JaapAap]

Well He's called I am, me thinks that means He exists.

Yes God exists and if you want proof go follow Thorben Sondergaard or anyone similar on the street and watch blind eyes opened on the street, instant miracles and if that's not convincing enough for you wait 'til legs are gonna pop out in Jesus' Name and the dead raised after 3 days.

 

[Chriliman]

But He is Existence, engage me

God only exists to us in the form of Jesus. Jesus was God existing as a man, therefore, we can comprehend Him, but we have yet to see God as He truly is.

 

[bhsmte]

Well He's called I am, me thinks that means He exists.

Yes God exists and if you want proof go follow Thorben Sondergaard or anyone similar on the street and watch blind eyes opened on the street, instant miracles and if that's not convincing enough for you wait 'til legs are gonna pop out in Jesus' Name and the dead raised after 3 days.

Any examples of these miracles?

 

[JaapAap]

Any examples of these miracles?

They always happen when the camera is off or in the bush in Africa.
Lol I thought I finally found one on youtube but it was an april fools joke.

 

[bhsmte]

They always happen when the camera is off or in the bush in Africa.
Lol I thought I finally found one on youtube but it was an april fools joke.

That's too bad.

 

[JaapAap]

That's too bad.

Yes, I did find one where a part of the heart was missing. They say it's documented.

http://documentedhealings.com/best-healing-testimony-ever/

 

[bhsmte]

Yes, I did find one where a part of the heart was missing. They say it's documented.

http://documentedhealings.com/best-healing-testimony-ever/

Documented from a religious site doesn't do it for me, sorry.

And if this is the case and God performed a miracle to save this one child, why does God allow 9 million children to die each year before the age of five?

 

[JaapAap]

Documented from a religious site doesn't do it for me, sorry.

And if this is the case and God performed a miracle to save this one child, why does God allow 9 million children to die each year before the age of five?

Because the church must do it in His Name like Jesus did and almost noone believes that or does that. There is a start now with people going to the street praying for the sick. All the believers must just step out and do what Jesus did.

 

[bhsmte]

Because the church must do it in His Name like Jesus did and almost noone believes that or does that. There is a start now with people going to the street praying for the sick. All the believers must just step out and do what Jesus did.

Ok, maybe you can give the millions of others some tips, since they are doing it wrong.