Theological thesis:God does not exist

[Joshua Caleb]

Existence is precisely that which exists. Existence is the sum of all entities and their relationships. There is no Existence apart from or superior to entities. Without entities, there is no Existence.

You hadn't addressed what I had written. Did you get my point? If God has identifiable properties unique to himself, he can't be identified as the abstraction Existence. He is something specific that (a theist claims) exists.


eudaimonia,

Mark

You are wrong, existence is a state not an entity, that which exists is an entity not a state therefore the sum totality of all things that exist doesnt automatically convert entity to a state.

That's the thing, God's qualities are not identifiable, He is spirit, to be identifiable he had to become flesh, Jesus Christ, therefore God can be idenfied as the abstraction existence, because everything else exists

 

[bhsmte]

Don't know where you want to go with this, but my experience is when people say God does not exist, then I find out that their concept of God is not accurate. In a way they are right, the God they imagine does not exist because they do not know God.

Does everyone who believes in a God, have the same concept of God as you?

 

[Joshua Caleb]

Don't know where you want to go with this, but my experience is when people say God does not exist, then I find out that their concept of God is not accurate. In a way they are right, the God they imagine does not exist because they do not know God.

You might be wrong this time, I love Jesus, I submit, you are welcome to engage me though

 

[Joshua Caleb]

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Does everyone who believes in a God, have the same concept of God as you?

There are gods and than theres God, the former is the ultimate, YHWH, the inexpressible one, that's the concept

 

[bhsmte]

There ar

There are gods and than theres God, the former is the ultimate, YHWH, the inexpressible one, that's the concept

Your concept, which is your opinion.

 

[Eudaimonist]

You are wrong, existence is a state not an entity

No, I'm not wrong. It's clear that we have different metaphysics.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Joshua Caleb]

No, I'm not wrong. It's clear that we have different metaphysics.


eudaimonia,

Mark

Insert notions, logics always find coherence

 

[Eudaimonist]

Insert notions, logics always find coherence

Huh?


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[bhsmte]

Insert notions, logics always find coherence

I don't find your posts coherent.

 

[Joshua Caleb]

Your concept, which is your opinion.

Nope not my concept nor my opinion, its biblical, maybe we can argue that

 

[Joshua Caleb]

I don't find your posts coherent.

Quote my incoherence, otherwise its just your opinion

 

[bhsmte]

Nope not my concept nor my opinion, its biblical, maybe we can argue that

Maybe you can show me how everyone interprets the bible as you do?

 

[bhsmte]

Quote my incoherence, otherwise its just your opinion

It is my opinion, even if I quote it, but your posts are mostly incoherent to me.

Hey, I may just be missing something that everyone else is getting here, but that is my perception of your posts.

 

[Joshua Caleb]

Huh?


eudaimonia,

Mark

Metaphysics, a Philisophical concept, phililosophy a dicipline founded on logic, when two logics differ, its either one or both are incorrect

 

[Joshua Caleb]

It is my opinion, even if I quote it, but your posts are mostly incoherent to me.

Hey, I may just be missing something that everyone else is getting here, but that is my perception of your posts.

To you... thank you well said

 

[bhsmte]

To you... thank you well said

Yep, I never claimed to speak for others, did I?

 

[Eudaimonist]

Metaphysics, a Philisophical concept, phililosophy a dicipline founded on logic, when two logics differ, its either one or both are incorrect

Yes, and mine is correct, of course. But my point is that terms are going to be defined differently in different metaphysics. We're likely to be talking past each other.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[joshua 1 9]

Does everyone who believes in a God, have the same concept of God as you?

I think we touched on this already but we can go into it deeper. As a Church, the Bride of Christ we are to be of one mind and one accord. That does not mean we are to be minions. It means that we are to have the Mind of Christ and the Divine thoughts of God. "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus." Back in Eden the Serpent told Eve: "you will be like God," Some people call this serpent talk: stinking thinking. So really that is the choice we have, the mind of the serpent or the mind of Christ. This was the reason for the flood. Their thoughts were evil all the time. The serpent can corrupt people thoughts and their concept of God so their thoughts do not reflect God at all.

"The LORD saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time." Gen 6:5

It would be about a one year study to learn about the Mind of Christ and all the different attributes that make up the Mind that we are to have as a Christian. For example we are told that "He had compassion and He healed them". So we know that the Mind of Christ is a mind of Compassion for others. There are easily hundreds of different things like this that make up the mind we are to have as a Christian. Each point could be a whole sermon onto itself. You could take up a whole Sunday and preach a whole sermon on just what it means to have compassion for others and a desire to want to heal them. I heard that a pastor could preach for a whole year on one verse: "God so loved the world". Of course God is infinite so perhaps you could go on forever talking about the Love that God has for us and for the world.

When Jesus Heals people He makes them whole. But Healing maybe a bit of an advanced topic for you to understand.

 

[bhsmte]

I think we touched on this already but we can go into it deeper. As a Church, the Bride of Christ we are to be of one mind and one accord. That does not mean we are to be minions. It means that we are to have the Mind of Christ and the Divine thoughts of God. "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus." Back in Eden the Serpent told Eve: "you will be like God," Some people call this serpent talk: stinking thinking. So really that is the choice we have, the mind of the serpent or the mind of Christ. This was the reason for the flood. Their thoughts were evil all the time. The serpent can corrupt people thoughts and their concept of God so their thoughts do not reflect God at all.

"The LORD saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time." Gen 6:5

It would be about a one year study to learn about the Mind of Christ and all the different attributes that make up the Mind that we are to have as a Christian. For example we are told that "He had compassion and He healed them". So we know that the Mind of Christ is a mind of Compassion for others. There are easily hundreds of different things like this that make up the mind we are to have as a Christian. Each point could be a whole sermon onto itself. You could take up a whole Sunday and preach a whole sermon on just what it means to have compassion for others and a desire to want to heal them. I heard that a pastor could preach for a whole year on one verse: "God so loved the world". Of course God is infinite so perhaps you could go on forever talking about the Love that God has for us and for the world.

When Jesus Heals people He makes them whole. But Healing maybe a bit of an advanced topic for you to understand.

Not going to read all of that.

Do all people who believe in God have the same concept of God as you?

Yes, or no?

 

[joshua 1 9]

You might be wrong this time, I love Jesus, I submit, you are welcome to engage me though

What scripture are we talking about here?