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Theistic Evolutionary Theory, could our Creator have evolved/learned?

Are you open to idea of the Creator learning, experimenting and in a way evolving?

  • We humans can learn and we are made in the image of God so....

  • God absolutely knew everything from eternity in the past and had zero need to learn.!

  • This is a new idea to me but is an improvement over extreme skepticism and atheism!

  • It is worthwhile to consider this theory if it can result in our kids being taught ID.

  • This idea is profoundly offensive to me! This is a blasphemy!

  • This would seem to fit with String Theory, The Anthropic Principle and Cyclic Model of the Universe.


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DennisTate

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The idea of time not being limited to being linear is intriguing and fits with this topic!

dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...scientist.html

 
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This parable is supposed to represent the call to salvation, I cannot come I have married a wife I have bought me a cow i have fields and commitments that cost a pretty price pray Lord excuse I cannot come. A certain man held a feast on his fine estate in town.
He laid a festive table and wore a wedding gown.
He sent invitations to his neighbors far and wide
but when the meal was ready, each of them replied:

The master rose up in anger, called his servant by name,
said: "Go into the town, fetch the blind and the lame,
fetch the peasant and the pauper, for this I have willed,
my banquet seem so crowded, and my table must be filled.
When all the poor had assembled, there was still room to spare,
so the master demanded: "Go search every where,
to the highways and the byways and force them to come in.
My table must be filled before the banquet can begin.

Now God has written a lesson for the rest of the mankind;
If we're slow a responding, he may leave us behind.
He's preparing a banquet for that great and glorious day
when the Lord and Master calls us, be certain not to say: I cannot come!
 
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I wonder if this parable could also partly be referring to how we Christians use our time and talents to reach out to others?


http://www.christianforums.com/t7674313/

The story of homeless man Angelo by Rick Joyner!
I just asked somebody if they had ever read this so I guess this is a good place to begin that writing as a separate thread.....I think I might just post a poll along with this one just for the fun of it????


 
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Is it hard to conceive that the Almighty Creator designed evolution as a means to unfold His creation? Why do they have to be separate from one another?

I myself have concluded that God learned and got better and better and better at creating living and non living matter.

I believe that a literal Adam and Eve were created around six thousand years or so ago!

The near death experience of Dr. Richard Eby speaks of the rebellion of Lucifer that destroyed all life on earth. This NDE partly verifies the Gap Theory!
 
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Perhaps in one way……. God is producing a reality film….. and the rejection of His offers by groups of people who one would think would tend to accept His offers……. fits into the film concept perfectly?

Then the acceptance of His offer by groups of people who one would tend to think…. would not accept God's offer…. also fits in perfectly.
 
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Is it hard to conceive that the Almighty Creator designed evolution as a means to unfold His creation? Why do they have to be separate from one another?

Perhaps the sun itself is symbolic of fundamental energy waves and their general behaviour patterns (divine feminine) whereas rays of light from the sun are symbolic of Super String behaviour… (the divine masculine)?!
 
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Good point!

Ancient King Cyrus of Persia was clearly identified as a Moshiach - (Anointed King) in Isaiah chapter 45.
 
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I think this idea of G-d learning and evolving and getting better and better at creating over infinite time in the past fits with......

http://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-philosophical-implications-of-multiverse-theory.7931488/

The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?


 
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Is it hard to conceive that the Almighty Creator designed evolution as a means to unfold His creation? Why do they have to be separate from one another?

Exactly!

One possibility is that G-d learned over eternity in the past.....
the Big Bang could well have been 13.72 billion or so years ago....
the earth could well be 4.5 billion years old......

And

and Adam and Eve could well have been created 6 or so thousand years ago.....
after the world that Lucifer nearly destroyed.... was repaired.....
 
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I have got to get back into this discussion shortly.......
 
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One possibility is that G-d learned over eternity in the past.....
Nope.
Yahuweh is Absolutely Uncreated, Perfect, Absolutely Perfect Complete Knowledge of Everything, Forever, nothing could possibly be 'better' in Him Himself nor in Yahushua, echad with the Father...

perhaps the Ekklesia , being immersed in Him, becoming echad with the son and with the Father, abiding eternally forever without end in Him,
is considered "better" in some way, but Yahuweh Himself remains unchanged and unchangeable.
 
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I’m going to suggest an argument that isn’t air-tight, but is suggestive.

First, I’m going to assume that the Big Bang didn’t come out of nowhere, but that there’s some system bigger than the universe out of which big bangs come. I believe most scientists expect to find such a system. It would just be a bit weird to find that suddenly out of literally nowhere, reality appears.

So in a system out of which universes come, could some entity evolve? I would think so. If we could evolve on earth, I don’t see why something couldn’t evolve from a more powerful environment.

However there’s an odd property of infinity. Suppose something like God can evolve. As long as doing so takes a finite period of time, we have an odd situation. Note that I’m not talking about God changing over time based on experience. I’m talking about God coming into existence in the first place.

Let’s suppose that it takes N years for God to evolve. N can be big, trillions of years. It doesn’t matter. Pick a time T. As long as the system has always existed, there are at least N years before time T. So God already exists. But this is true for any time T. Hence there is no time before God existed.

I actually think this is a reasonable argument for the existence of God. Not a proof. There's no full proof, but a plausible argument.
 
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In my opinion your reply is BRILLIANT!!!!

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