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Pain in egalitarianism? I think you mean pain in patriarchy. You mentioned awhile back that I made patriarchy sound like oppression, and of course I did, because that's what it is. And oppression does cause pain.
Yes, brother. Pain. Pain is everywhere. Oppression is everywhere. It just shows itself in different ways. Here, here.
I do not know you. But you shared your pain. And I know this. If my father wanted to discard me, it would shape me forever. Forgiveness. If I were able to do that, well that in and of itself would be the accomplishment of a lifetime. A crown. Certainly you doing that pleases the Lord. And, if that happened to me, certainly it would affect how I read the scriptures, maybe in ways that I would even be unaware of. I would have had an issue with my father, with authority, with hierarchy. I would find it objectionable that my father's word carried more emphasis than my mother. Indeed, you are a man. And I am impressed by you. Not by your theology. By you. That is why I say, well done brother! And that is all I have to say about that. I feel that I might be going somewhere sacred and maybe I am not holy enough to touch it.I'm a man. I have no need for egalitarianism. It doesn't benefit me in the least. I had no interest in looking into it because that was a "women's issue."
I became an Egalitarian because the Scriptures led me there. It's the truth. I had no choice. It's the only logical way I can see to reconcile what the scriptures plainly say.
PhDs are nice but they don't mean as much as one might think. Part of my job is to oversee sex offenders. I have an 88 year old man with a PhD that sexually molested his granddaughters. He was a Methodist minister. Church did not save him. A PhD did not save him. He found salvation literally in a prison cell. I do not worry that he will re-offend. He can barely walk now and is impotent. He is made in the image of God, just like me. I love him. He is my friend. My brother. Actually, I treat him more like he is my grandpa. My job aside, me and the old man are not equals because he is my elder, I respect him due to his age. It is patriarchal thing and you may not understand.Godly women with PhDs in theology can't teach Sunday school to teenage boys, but Roscoe the taxi driver who gets his theology from highly suspect places is perfectly qualified. The body of Christ is harmed because of these limitations they put on women. Not on men. Only women. And it's wrong and it's sinful. That's why I do this.
And gay pride has their educated people with PhDs as well, playing the same word games and text twisting that ya'll do. What's next, inappropriate behavior with animals. It's in the OT too you know. God had to say that because people were doing that. I hope not. I hope you and I are not arguing with people at CF about that years from now. Well, at least you probably would stop with the GEN 3:16.... ha, ha, but maybe not. If that happens, lets make a deal to team up, LOL.
I like the Roscoe guys. But I don't like women alone teaching boys. They need a man or they will turn out sissies. It works best when we fulfill our roles and not make church a political enterprise that copies worldly systems, instead following the Bible.
Sounds nice. But patriarchists very often let the wife have her way when it suits them. Throw them a bone, or throw them 9 bones out of 10 over things that don't matter to the man. But that 1 thing out of 10 that really matters, there's always the man-card to play. Sounds nice. Looks good on paper. But it's rotten at its core.
Ha, ha. True, true. The wife plays the same game with the submission side. I know my wife does. That mutual submission thing is a hard thing. In the flesh it is darn near impossible. Only walking in the spirit does it work.
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