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I still see you dwelling the same tombs as they.I disagree that egalitarianism and pro-LGBT folks follow the same playbook, though that is a common charge. But lets have a look at that:
Egalitarianism is supported by the conditions of perfection prior to the fall. Man and woman are presented as equals in Genesis 1 and 2, and are united in marriage in 2:24
LGBT issues and ideas are missing from the Eden account.
Egalitarianism is supported by the clear depiction of patriarchy as an event of the fall. (Gen 3:16) The world immediately sees the effects of the fallen world. In the very next chapter after the fall we find the first cases of murder (4:8) patrilineage (4:18) and polygamy (4:19) Humankind was thoroughly wicked by 6:5.
Unlike egalitarianism, homosexual intercourse is introduced post-fall. The first clear reference is Gen19:5, though it may have been referenced earlier, in 9:22.
Egalitarianism has several clear positive examples throughout the Bible – Miriam, Abigail, Deborah, Huldah, Mary Magdalene, Priscilla, Junia, Phoebe, Euodia, Syntyche, and others. There are ZERO gay positive examples in the Bible.
The complementarian references can all be explained without negating or removing any of them from the Bible. Egalitarianism stands with or without those references.
Not so for LGBT. Becoming pro LGBT means negating every Biblical reference that appears to be about homosexuality by applying each reference to something else. But in doing so you completely remove LGBT from the Bible. How can a divinely inspired book given to the Lord’s church leave out such a common occurrence as homosexuality? Did not the church leaders realize they had gay folks around them?
Using the common LGBT argument that (1) people are born that way and (2) it cannot be changed and (3) a substantial percentage of the population is born gay, we would have to conclude that there were many gay people in the early church.
Using a conservative figure of 2%, there must have been at least 60 gay people in the church on the first day. (Acts 2:41) In a very short time there would have been 100 gay people. (Acts 4:4) And then great numbers. (Acts 5:14). And the gay population grew even larger (Acts 6:1) and then it increased again, greatly (6:7)
Yet with all the teaching and admonition about sexual immorality and the utter seriousness that we must avoid it (Acts 15:20, 29, 21:25; 1 Cor 6:18; 7:2; 2 Cor 12:21; Gal 5:19; Eph 5:3; Col 3:5; 1 Thes 4:3) how is it that our supernatural, God-inspired book COMPLETELY overlooked all the gay people that were amongst the first century Christians?
So it's plain to see that the pro LGBT argument is utterly devoid of any substance, while the egalitarian argument has several Biblical points in favor of it. And while both of them challenge tradition, egalitarianism does so using solid Biblical hermeneutics, the other does not at all.
No hard feelings here.
The tombs where dead bodies of tradition without reverence lay.
But Christ did free unchainable tomb dweller from the demons, it is true.
And the gold from the texts that you melt down,
what comes out of that fire, idol or crown?
But Arron did return from ḥēṭ’ ha‘ēggel to be at the right hand, it is true.
More blah, blah? LOL. Be not as their ally as you are along side them. Maybe the Lord can use you or does use you to preach against the gay pride heresy that is burning up the world and even the church. Maybe you could be better equipped for that than most. I had a inappropriate content addiction and so understand sex addiction. For 40 years I wandered that dreadful desert, but I am free now. I dare not boast in myself. It is only because of the Lord that I am free. As a result I have compassion for them, often purposefully hid. But sometimes I struggle because my anger swells and I want to metaphorically start throwing them from the rooftops, though that be wrong, sinful. Christ can command strongly, turn the tables, and swing the whip. But He is a righteous man. I am not and I fear that I would soon enjoy the violence of it.
May the Lord shine His Light upon you and bless you.
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