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YSM: Redemption and the ransom of the Adam seed/souls/persons born in Adam and of the earth is about the uniting of the heavens and earth again, in the regeneration of them, but not in the Adam spirit, flesh or name, but in the New Man name, Spirit and flesh, in regeneration of our flesh who are regenerated into the One Living Spirit.
Nope, that is from the Word of God, both the OT and NT....sorry you miss the message.More from the fraudulent "Enoch", I see.
Isaiah 29 11 The whole vision has become to you like the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one who is literate, saying, Read this, please.
And he says, I cannot, for it is sealed.
12 Then the book is delivered to one who is illiterate, saying, Read this, please.
And he says, I am not literate.
13 Therefore the Lord said:
Inasmuch as these people draw near with their mouths
And honor Me with their lips,
But have removed their hearts far from Me,
And their fear toward Me is taught by the commandment of men,
14 Therefore, behold, I will again do a marvelous work
Among this people,
A marvelous work and a wonder;
For the wisdom of their wise men shall perish,
And the understanding of their prudent men shall be hidden.
15 Woe to those who seek deep to hide their counsel far from the Lord,
And their works are in the dark;
They say, Who sees us? and, Who knows us?
16 Surely you have things turned around!
Shall the potter be esteemed as the clay;
For shall the thing made say of him who made it,
He did not make me?
Or shall the thing formed say of him who formed it,
He has no understanding?
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Kewl thread!Amein, I am also a geocentrist!
Unfortunately for most heliocentrists, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
http://www.christianforums.com/t7721577-6/The Sequence Of Creation is a major Biblical problem facing Christian heliocentrists. The sun is not referred to until Day 4.
Most contend that it was created on Day 1 but only became visible on Day 4 so that they can have the earth going round the sun from the very first day of its creation. To say that the sun had already been created before day 4 is to twist the scriptures beyond acceptability in this one specific case to save the heliocentric position.
If this interpretation is used in this one instance, why is it not used for all the other verses in Genesis. It would make nonsense of the whole record of events.
The Holy Scriptures insists that the sun was created on Day 4. How then did the earth rotate around a non-existent sun for three days? And when the sun was created on Day 4, did God give the earth a jolt and send it on its circular route around the sun?
Surely the most obvious explanation is that the earth was created FIRST of all the universe - as the Bible says - and the universe rotated around it - with all the planets created later on Day 4..............................................
Comments, questions and insults are welcome!
Sincerely, Zach Doty
PS. If you think you can prove that the earth moves, I suggest you go claim yourself $10,000 here and $1,000 here!
This came up in the thread about solar theory, but I figured I'd bring it up here because I don't know how many people are reading it five pages in. Does anyone else here reject the idea that the Earth orbits the sun?
The Bible is pretty clear that the Earth is fixed and immobile, and it's the sun that moves, and I'm surprised how many Christians are willing to reject the Bible for science.
Sure ... why not? I need a challenge.
I'll reject it -- let's see where this goes, eh?
So?The background of those videos, with the hanging TV and the non-descript picture, leads me to believe that this man is filming from some sort of home for the mentally ill.
So?
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I only brought it up because it was mentioned in another thread.This is one that was much better left dead.
Why do you do this, LLoJ?
Perhaps it is best to move it to a more appropriate board?
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WhateverYes. The stiff as a board section.
Not the post I was mentioning.
It is indeed an interesting topic.Maybe the earth didnt spin untill day four....sorry I came here and read...would be a shame to not post
The Word of God declares that the earth is the center of the creation, and the heavens and earth are of a piece, and the heavens were stretched out from the earth on day 2 of creation week, between the divided in two waters of creation.
The early Church "Fathers" completely agree with the Word of God on the geocentric creation.
That is the general thought amongst most theistic evolutionary believers.I'm inclined to believe that the "cosmology" of the Genesis texts doesn't lie, but that they reflect the spiritual reality they describe. A greater light to rule the day, a lesser light to rule the night, and the sons of God being associated with stars in the firmament which divides heaven and earth, may be analogous word-pictures which Paul might have said are taught to us by the Holy Spirit.
The Word is clear.
The Word of God declares that the earth is the center of the creation, and the heavens and earth are of a piece, and the heavens were stretched out from the earth on day 2 of creation week, between the divided in two waters of creation.
The early Church "Fathers" completely agree with the Word of God on the geocentric creation.
The Fathers on the Geocentric Cosmos
Scripture Catholic - GEOCENTRISM
Before there was a Church, Enoch the prophet, the seventh from Adam, wrote the book of cosmology revealing the paths of the sun, moon, and stars and how they bring in God's years from the beginning unto eternity in perfect justice, never changing and never deviating.
Enoch did, and told us.Nobody should watch something based on the assumption that thousands of people are in a conspiracy against the truth. When I can look at the solar system and SEE that the sun is at the center, I have no right to say otherwise.
YSM, go to space and then tell me what is there
Is the book of Enoch considered canonical by any Christians?Enoch did, and told us.
Yes. Ethiopian Orthodox and some others.Is the book of Enoch considered canonical by any Christians?
ahhhh, yes. Now I remember! thanksYes. Ethiopian Orthodox and some others.
Remember, "canon" is man made lists.
There has never been concensus of "canon" lists in all the Church age in all the churches since the first "list" made by men several hundred years after the Church of Jesus Christ was founded on the Resurrected Christ.
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