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I can tell you who that person is already. He is not recognised as such, but I do see this person as the one to come.
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I can tell you who that person is already. He is not recognised as such, but I do see this person as the one to come.@Spiritual Jew
@Marilyn C
Once we can identify for certain who that little horn person is - then we can know that the ToD act is not long into the future.
Which means our troubles of this world are about over and our salvation complete with the rapture/resurrection event that has to happen before the ToD act.
The Day of Christ is a good time for persons in heaven. But the Day of Christ is a bad time for persons on earth.I do not see the Day of Christ and the Day of the LORD (judgment, etc) as the same.
The Day of Christ is a good time for persons in heaven. But the Day of Christ is a bad time for persons on earth.
He has to be a Jew and his religion Judaism. I am pretty sure though that you are thinking of a muslim leader in the middle east, right ?I can tell you who that person is already. He is not recognised as such, but I do see this person as the one to come.
You never will, depsite the fact that premillennialists made tons of false assumption of who that person may be. It is because there is NO SUCH THING as a "little horn person" which is a distorted and lying literal interpretation of premillennialism.
And literally not physically is splitting hairs. My view is that all prophesy is fulfilled literally. Not literally as Historicists and Premillennialists define literal. But as it was literally supposed to symbolize. For example, when John the Baptist went forth preparing the way of the Lord, it was "LITERALLY" the fulfillment of the prophecy of Elijah that was to come before the Lord. Not as Historicists and others define literally, but as God defines it! That's the difference, and that is why I reject the methodology of Historicism, Literalism, Premillennialism, Dispensationalism, and every other ism that doesn't "really" understand that God is the interpreter of His own word. His interpretation is not governed by their strict rules, but by His! And that literal doesn't mean a nation in prophecy will be a historical Middle Eastern nation in Revelation, or that the antichrist nation is Rome, or that the Little Horn must be a man pretending to be king of the Jews. That may be Historicism, but it most certainly is not the true methodology of interpretation of scripture. Your protests not withstanding.
He has to be a Jew and his religion Judaism. I am pretty sure though that you are thinking of a muslim leader in the middle east, right ?
The little horn comes from north and west of Israel - Daniel 8:9.
Daniel 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
Thank you for posting all those scriptures. And still there is Rom. 8: 34 referring to Christ making intercession for us. That obviously is a time period of Christ. (GK. has `day` as also a time period).The Day of Christ is a good time for persons in heaven. But the Day of Christ is a bad time for persons on earth.
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The Day of Christ is the period when Christians taken in the rapture/resurrection are given rewards in heaven for the things they have done in this body for the cause of Christ.
While here on earth, things turn bad, the AoD setup and soon the great tribulation begins.
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The textual references you provided containing the term "day of Christ" - all look forward to the day of Christ for reward. Phil. 1: 6 - 10. 2: 16. 1 Cor. 1: 7 & 8. 2 Cor. 1: 14)
Here are those verses.....
Phillipians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
7 Even as it is meet for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart; inasmuch as both in my bonds, and in the defence and confirmation of the gospel, ye all are partakers of my grace.
8 For God is my record, how greatly I long after you all in the bowels of Jesus Christ.
9 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment;
10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ;
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Philipians 2:16 Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain.
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1Corinthians1:7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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1Corinthians 1:14 As also ye have acknowledged us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as ye also are ours in the day of the Lord Jesus.
Just like us Gentiles, but the Lord will yet reveal Himself to them. His purposes for them will be fulfilled. We, the B/C are not the center of God`s purposes.And again (and again) Douggg, horns signify power. Period. I've heard horns symbolize fertility, man, kings, aggression, political nations, the (far) East and the (far) West, and a lot more. It depends upon your "system" of interpretation.
Frankly, it's hard to UN-Learn what you have been taught or have believed for years. If you think national Israel was/is the chosen people, or you've been brought up to try and force everything in the Bible to be physical or literal in its fulfillment while playing with numbers in your charts, then it's tough to break out of that mold. Especially with most of the world having their ears tickled by unfaithful teachers!
You ask how people can continue to think it's all about Israel. Their answer is that scripture says "Israel," and the nation is the only Israel they know...unfortunately! Eyes they have, but cannot see. Ears they have, but they do not hear. They can discern the face of the sky, but they cannot discern the signs of the times.
Yep...
What are you intending to say here? Do you have anything at all to say in response to what I said? I showed scripture showing Gentile believers as being included among the elect. Do you have any thoughts on that?`For Jacob my servant`s sake, and ISRAEL MY ELECT.` (Isa. 45: 4)
I don't get the sense that you are reading my posts very carefully at all. I showed how Paul, in Romans 14:10-12, was referencing Isaiah 45:22-24 which indicates that at the time everyone bows down before Christ, "all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed". No believer would ever be "incensed against him", so it's clearly talking about unbelievers there. They will bow before Him and confess that He is Lord at that point, but they will be shamed for being against Him while they were alive. And they will be cast into the lake of fire at that point.Those in the B/C will be judged, rewarded as to whether we did our works by the Holy Spirit or for self. (1 Cor. 3: 13 - 15) Believers there do not go to hell.
`If anyone`s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a REWARD. `(1 cor. 3: 14)
Just like us Gentiles, but the Lord will yet reveal Himself to them. His purposes for them will be fulfilled. We, the B/C are not the center of God`s purpose
What are you intending to say here? Do you have anything at all to say in response to what I said? I showed scripture showing Gentile believers as being included among the elect. Do you have any thoughts on that?
No, that isn't what I think at all. Good grief.Sorry I must have missed your `different contexts.` So, you think that all the people of the world will make their way from New Zealand and Iceland etc over to Israel to stand as millions of people in the plains around Israel to be sorted out left and right.
No one is taken and no one left in Matthew 25:31-46. The concept of one being taken and one left is in terms of people who are alive when Christ returns. One will be physically killed and one will physically survive. That is NOT the context of Matthew 25:31-46.it is a pictorial representation of the `2 men, & 2 women,` one taken and one left, as in the days of Noah, taken in the flood.
It seems that you also did not read my post about this very carefully.@Spiritual Jew
There will be the judgment seat of Christ for what believers have done for the cause of Christ while in this body.
Yes, that's true. But, what you don't understand is that the great white throne and judgment seat of Christ are the same thing. I showed how both believers and unbelievers will be judged when standing before the judgment seat of Christ and gave scriptural evidence to back that up. But, you won't even bother addressing that evidence.@Spiritual Jew
The judgment of unbelievers will be at the Great White Throne judgment after the millennium is over.
Israel is called God`s elect, and so are the B/C.What are you intending to say here? Do you have anything at all to say in response to what I said? I showed scripture showing Gentile believers as being included among the elect. Do you have any thoughts on that?
Everyone shall bow and give an account but the B/C will do it at the Bema (reward) seat of Christ, whereas the nations will do it at the GWT.I don't get the sense that you are reading my posts very carefully at all. I showed how Paul, in Romans 14:10-12, was referencing Isaiah 45:22-24 which indicates that at the time everyone bows down before Christ, "all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed". No believer would ever be "incensed against him", so it's clearly talking about unbelievers there. They will bow before Him and confess that He is Lord at that point, but they will be shamed for being against Him while they were alive. And they will be cast into the lake of fire at that point.
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