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I have been trying to figure out for over 20 hellish years who turned me over to satan... that was an interesting article on destruction...My dear NeedHugs: Our God specializes in bringing His purpose to bear in every life. Destruction is not a feel good experience, but if one is to be destroyed let it be Abba who is at the Source! We can trust the One who does all things well.
Originally Posted by Wardendresden
"But as I stated it does not say He is righteousness, He is justice, He is holiness. It does say He is love.
And since Jesus summed up the entire OT by stating love God with all your mind and strength and heart, and love your neighbor as yourself, why do you add to it by stating you have to be "righteous," or "not believe in universalism?"
If one lives by love in all circumstances there is no sin that they can commit that will separate them from God.
Yet you lift Scripture from the Bible as much as anyone else---because the Bible remains contradictory on many subjects. But if one applies LOVE to every subject in the Bible, one will always make the choices Jesus made. The Bible is full of inconsistencies, hundreds if not thousands of them. The only way to "reconcile" them is to have a yard mark. For me that yard mark is Jesus. Anything, any action, any purpose that does not fit in with how God in the Flesh revealed Himself to us means nothing at all.
So what about universalism bothers you other than you "don't believe it." If God decides to save all is He somehow a lesser god than if He shows us all He can bring down fire and brimstone upon the greater part of humanity?
I would suggest you read the book of James slowly and carefully once again--and then again---and then a third time in hopes that you will absorb the importance of love above all other attributes.
As Paul said, "The greatest of these is love."
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Warden: That is one class post indeed! I can only find three Scriptures that define what our God is (His essential Nature)."
God is
Spirit= John 4.24
Fire= Hebr 4.29
Love= 1 John 4.8
my dad sent me to a homeopath that was part of a ring of satan worshippers, i submitted to their 'treatments'.... that's where i went, that's how it happened... i don't know if it was my dad, i don't know if it was the evil of the satan worshippers, and finally, i don't know if it was God, because i was given the scripture 'it's a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God' and i found it in a very SCARY few verses in Hebrews 10...
i had, up until getting that scripture, thought it was the satan worshippers, but the fact that it has gone on for so long, with the Almighty holding my hand all the way, makes me think it WAS God who did this to me.
to say that it is 'not a feel good experience' is the understatement of the eons lol and since i must admit there is a 'hell on earth' for people like i was... i have to admit there is a hell after death, only that it is remedial...
i still find the entire process cruel, and i often complain to Yeshua, bitterly...
'turned over to satan to learn not to blaspheme'... seems cruel... but if that's the only way God can do it... then, i guess that's that...
today, Jesus gave me the faith that i'm already healed of it, and since 'faith is the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for, and the EVIDENCE of things not seen'... then i have it, and i'm assuming it will soon be over... but i would not wish what i have been thru on my worst enemy... and i would not be able to 'turn someone over to satan so they would learn not to blaspheme'
it was not that long ago, that an atheist friend blasphemed God HORRIFICALLY in front of me, and it struck TERROR into my heart, not for me, not for God, but for HIM...
i was an evil atheist like that... did i deserve 20 years of extreme torture? i really don't understand it all.
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