The "Rapture" potentially VERY CLOSE!! ~~ A View of Scripture and Current Events.

[NightHawkeye]

My eschatology leans toward partial preterism, a system that doesn't always lend itself to identifying exact timelines and such.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

LOL.

Well, that certainly explains your response indicating that you have "no idea". ...


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[NumberOneSon]

Since the two witnesses, unarguably, will be killed at the time of the second woe whereas the 144,000 stand on mount Sion prior to the first woe, I don't see conflict there, Acts. Your post vaguely hints at conflict though, so let me know if you still see conflict.

No, I wasn't hinting at a conflict.

... and what if we see 144,000 standing? ... if not, then can virtual be considered, LOL.

I'm sure Beck could draw a crowd that large even in Israel.

stay tuned ...

You got it.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

 

[NightHawkeye]

I'm sure Beck could draw a crowd that large even in Israel.

Considering that El Presidente' just threw Israel under the bus, maybe "especially in Israel" would be more appropriate, LOL.

Of course, even such a large crowd would be unconvincing, right?

I mean ... how could one prove they were pure as virgins, or without guile, or firstfruits? Not that it would matter to any of them, LOL.


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[NightHawkeye]

Dana Milbank at The Washington Post confirmed last week that Fox cancelled Glenn Beck on account of his "hate speech".
Joe Lieberman joining Glenn Beck: a shanda - The Washington Post

Beck’s hateful shtick encouraged even Fox News to end his show later this month.
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But, Milbanks credibility is suspect ... so perhaps his info is questionable. Milbank also declared Beck as anti-Semitic! (Who knew?)

Joe Lieberman, first Jew on a presidential ticket, was embracing Beck, the leading purveyor of anti-Semitic memes in the mass media.
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Never mind the rally in Israel Glenn Beck is working on ... sigh ...


Seemingly, out of the blue, Beck this morning called on the Washington Post to print a retraction ... wonder if that'll happen ... what d'ya think, Acts?


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[NumberOneSon]

Dana Milbank at The Washington Post confirmed last week that Fox cancelled Glenn Beck on account of his "hate speech".
Joe Lieberman joining Glenn Beck: a shanda - The Washington Post

This is the same opinion piece that Glenn was railing against this morning. Mr. Milbank certainly believes that Fox News ended Beck’s show because of his “hateful shtick”, but he didn’t exactly provide sources for that claim. As you show below, the same article also purports that Beck is the “leading purveyor of anti-Semitic memes”, and that one of Beck’s guests described the Protocols of Zion as “accurate”. I’d say Milbank is twisting some things around in the article, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the part about Fox News ending Beck’s show is a part of that. It’s an opinion piece, and the “opinion” part definitely bled through.

Now on the other hand, back in March, Glenn claimed he had been planning to leave Fox for months. Pat Gray also stated that it was Glenn’s choice to move. In June, Glenn informed his listeners he had decided back in April to “get out” or he might lose his soul. A few weeks later he said he was leaving TV because “there’s no honor in it”. So unless a reporter gets a Fox New exec on record stating that Beck was let go because of hate speech, then I’m going with Beck’s version as the most likely scenario.

Beck’s hateful shtick encouraged even Fox News to end his show later this month.
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But, Milbanks credibility is suspect ... so perhaps his info is questionable. Milbank also declared Beck as anti-Semitic! (Who knew?)

Definitely questionable. Again, it’s an opinion piece. Mr. Milbank may believe that Fox News ended Beck’s show because of hate speech, but he provided no evidence of it other than his opinion.

Joe Lieberman, first Jew on a presidential ticket, was embracing Beck, the leading purveyor of anti-Semitic memes in the mass media.
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Never mind the rally in Israel Glenn Beck is working on ... sigh ...

Of course Milbank believes the Israel rally is merely an attempt by Beck to show that “see, I’m not a racist - I’m hangin’ with Jews!”.

Seemingly, out of the blue, Beck this morning called on the Washington Post to print a retraction ... wonder if that'll happen ... what d'ya think, Acts?

I doubt the Post will be able to retract an op ed, but I guess we’ll see what happens.

 

[NightHawkeye]

I’d say Milbank is twisting some things around in the article ...

LOL ... noticed that, huh?

Of course Milbank believes the Israel rally is merely an attempt by Beck to show that “see, I’m not a racist - I’m hangin’ with Jews!”.

Given the way Milbank twisted other things around, as you say, I seriously doubt Milbank believes that at all. He was just writing a smear piece ... for whatever reason ... twisting and torturing everything possible.

I doubt the Post will be able to retract an op ed, but I guess we’ll see what happens.

I agree with ya that the Post likely won't. But I disagree with your assertion that they are unable to retract an op ed ... they can retract at any time ... nothing stopping them ... their failure to do so makes 'em look guilty ... such behavior might even have something to do with their continually declining circulation.

Even the Washington Post says circulation continues to decline: Washington Post Co.’s first-quarter earnings take hit as Kaplan enrollment slides - The Washington Post

At the flagship newspaper, The Washington Post, troubles with sliding print ads and declining circulation continued, while higher sales at the company’s online edition of the newspaper and the Slate group of Web sites failed to make up the shortfall.
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New York Times accounts of the Post's circulation even drop it from the nation's fifth to sixth nationally: Wall Street Journal Still First in Daily Circulation - NYTimes.com

Sad, really ...

... and needlessly so.


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[NumberOneSon]

He was just writing a smear piece ... for whatever reason ... twisting and torturing everything possible.

If you realized from the beginning that Milbank was writing a smear piece, and that he was twisting and torturing everything possible, then why bother claiming "Dana Milbank at The Washington Post confirmed last week that Fox cancelled Glenn Beck on account of his 'hate speech'"? Nothing was actually confirmed...it was just a smear op ed. And considering that Milbank was also the guy who wrote the Tears of a Clown book last year, I'm frankly surprised you would think Milbank's opinion on Beck's departure would be worth mentioning.

I agree with ya that the Post likely won't. But I disagree with your assertion that they are unable to retract an op ed ... they can retract at any time ... nothing stopping them ... their failure to do so makes 'em look guilty ... such behavior might even have something to do with their continually declining circulation.

Even the Washington Post says circulation continues to decline: Washington Post Co.’s first-quarter earnings take hit as Kaplan enrollment slides - The Washington Post

At the flagship newspaper, The Washington Post, troubles with sliding print ads and declining circulation continued, while higher sales at the company’s online edition of the newspaper and the Slate group of Web sites failed to make up the shortfall.
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New York Times accounts of the Post's circulation even drop it from the nation's fifth to sixth nationally: Wall Street Journal Still First in Daily Circulation - NYTimes.com

Sad, really ...

... and needlessly so.

Well, I work for a newspaper company, so I know all too well that circulation across the country has been declining for years now. It's not exactly the most promising field to be in at the moment, lol.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

 

[NightHawkeye]

If you realized from the beginning that Milbank was writing a smear piece, and that he was twisting and torturing everything possible, then why bother claiming "Dana Milbank at The Washington Post confirmed last week that Fox cancelled Glenn Beck on account of his 'hate speech'"?

Gee, Acts, it was kinda like a conversation starter ... a current events update to an old topic ...

Nothing was actually confirmed...

Agreed. If I worked for a newspaper and actually wrote for a living, I might have had more precise terminology rolling off my fingertips onto the keyboard. But, hey, I do the best I can ... even make retractions when necessary.

... it was just a smear op ed.

... looks like we agree on that ... kinda surprised actually ...

And considering that Milbank was also the guy who wrote the Tears of a Clown book last year, I'm frankly surprised you would think Milbank's opinion on Beck's departure would be worth mentioning.

LOL. I don't know Milbank from the man in the moon ... all I know about him, I learned yesterday ... just another faceless minion purporting to be a reporter ... apparently as unconcerned about facts and truth as the company he works for ... less, or more, kinda hard to say.

Well, I work for a newspaper company, so I know all too well that circulation across the country has been declining for years now.

That's why I offered the perspective that the Washington Post had an even smaller percentage of a shrinking pie. The Washington Post seems to be doing even worse than the rest ... not too surprising if Milbank is representative of the staff there ...

It's not exactly the most promising field to be in at the moment, lol.

Sorry to hear that ... hope your company has higher standards.


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[NumberOneSon]

Gee, Acts, it was kinda like a conversation starter ... a current events update to an old topic ...

Ok. I thought you had originally posted it as evidence that Glenn had been forced off of TV.

Agreed. If I worked for a newspaper and actually wrote for a living, I might have had more precise terminology rolling off my fingertips onto the keyboard. But, hey, I do the best I can ... even make retractions when necessary.

If it makes you feel any better, I don't write for the newspaper either. I'm in a different department.

... looks like we agree on that ... kinda surprised actually ...

We don't disagree on everything....most of the time.

LOL. I don't know Milbank from the man in the moon ... all I know about him, I learned yesterday ... just another faceless minion purporting to be a reporter ... apparently as unconcerned about facts and truth as the company he works for ... less, or more, kinda hard to say.

Yeah, Milbank must have it in for Beck for some reason.

That's why I offered the perspective that the Washington Post had an even smaller percentage of a shrinking pie. The Washington Post seems to be doing even worse than the rest ... not too surprising if Milbank is representative of the staff there ...

Sorry to hear that ... hope your company has higher standards.

We do, but that probably isn't going to help. The age of instant information via 24-hour news shows and the internet has been slowly whittling away at the newspaper subscriber base for years, and that's not likely to change. Local papers have a better chance of surviving due to advertising and home-based content, but its not looking good. However, hope springs eternal, right (unless of course its an Arab Spring ).

 

[NightHawkeye]

Ok. I thought you had originally posted it as evidence that Glenn had been forced off of TV.

Gosh, Acts ...

... the Huffington Post and Media Matters seem to think they forced Beck off the air ...

Media Matters Toasts Final Glenn Beck Show With Silly Party (VIDEO)
Glenn Beck's tenure at Fox News will come to an end on Thursday, and no organization seems happier about his impending signoff than Media Matters, the progressive news watchdog group that has spent months pressuring advertisers and network executives to pull Beck out of his hourlong 5 p.m. slot.
On Monday, Media Matters threw a party to celebrate Beck's departure, drawing hundreds of activists, journalists and political strategists from the nation's capital. The Huffington Post's Zach Carter was there.
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Of course, they don't really say that they forced Beck off the air, just that they spent a lot of time and effort to accomplish that feat.

I'm sure there's a subtle difference there, but the line sure seems kinda fuzzy to me ... would Beck have left if the program weren't under pressure? ... would Fox have sued him for breach of contract if they weren't under pressure?



And to continue the prior discussion ...

Yeah, Milbank must have it in for Beck for some reason.

Yeah, kinda weird ... and why?


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[NumberOneSon]

Gosh, Acts ...

... the Huffington Post and Media Matters seem to think they forced Beck off the air ...

Media Matters Toasts Final Glenn Beck Show With Silly Party (VIDEO)
Glenn Beck's tenure at Fox News will come to an end on Thursday, and no organization seems happier about his impending signoff than Media Matters, the progressive news watchdog group that has spent months pressuring advertisers and network executives to pull Beck out of his hourlong 5 p.m. slot.
On Monday, Media Matters threw a party to celebrate Beck's departure, drawing hundreds of activists, journalists and political strategists from the nation's capital. The Huffington Post's Zach Carter was there.
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Of course, they don't really say that they forced Beck off the air, just that they spent a lot of time and effort to accomplish that feat.

Well, of course I would expect a group like that to take credit for Beck’s departure. A Jewish group tried to take credit for Beck’s departure as well.

I'm sure there's a subtle difference there, but the line sure seems kinda fuzzy to me ... would Beck have left if the program weren't under pressure?

According to Beck, it sounds like he was planning to. Just today he was discussing his impending departure and he revealed that he had been talking with a friend last summer about how he might leave Fox News. The friend told him to wait a season – when the “leaves” changed, then Beck would know it was time. Around Christmas, Glenn told his audience that the leaves were changing…although no one knew what that meant at that point. So it looks like Beck was already planning on breaking away from Fox. GBTV probably took months of covert preparation.

One thing I don’t doubt is Beck’s sincerity. I think he truly believes what he says; for that reason I give him the benefit of the doubt and take him at his word that his departure from Fox was being planned all along.

... would Fox have sued him for breach of contract if they weren't under pressure?

That’s probably the best argument for Beck being given the pink slip.

Yeah, kinda weird ... and why?

Because he’s an agent for “Spooky Dude”, of course.

 

[Shesapeach]

Glenn Beck isn't breaking with Fox completely. He's going to be doing specials for them as well as his radio program and his own web channel, GBTV.

He believes it's time to stop talking about what's going on and do something about it, counteract the radicals and their destroy-America...eh-hmm, their "fundamental transformation of America" agenda.

It really is amazing what he has started to do and he's got American Christians standing with him.

 

[NightHawkeye]

According to Beck, it sounds like he was planning to. Just today he was discussing his impending departure and he revealed that he had been talking with a friend last summer about how he might leave Fox News. The friend told him to wait a season – when the “leaves” changed, then Beck would know it was time. Around Christmas, Glenn told his audience that the leaves were changing…although no one knew what that meant at that point. So it looks like Beck was already planning on breaking away from Fox. GBTV probably took months of covert preparation.

One thing I don’t doubt is Beck’s sincerity. I think he truly believes what he says; for that reason I give him the benefit of the doubt and take him at his word that his departure from Fox was being planned all along.

Since Beck is a reliable source now, LOL, there's one other thing he said today worth mentioning ... he was advised earlier never to run from ... but to run to ... rather than retreating, he changed the battlefield ... cool, huh?

He says his adversaries will soon wish for the day when Beck was simply on Fox. So, what d'ya think, Acts ... feeling the love, yet?

... would Fox have sued him for breach of contract if they weren't under pressure?

That’s probably the best argument for Beck being given the pink slip.

LOL, kinda thought so, too ...


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[Jipsah]

The patented 666 Beast Identifier, which has never been known to fail, says: S-a-r-a-h P-a-l-i-n.

Nah, you failed to adjust by LaHaye's Constant, otherwise you'd have yielded the result "A L L T H E M D A N G C R Y P T O S O C I A L I S T D E M O C R A T S W H O I N S I S T O N S P E N D I N G U S I N T O P E N U R Y" But in either case, you don't get anything that has even the remotest bearing on anything like Christian Eschatolgy.

My prediction, worth precisely the price charged, is that our Lord will return on November 11, 2011, at 11:11 hours UTC. I base that prediction on the feeling that 11/11/11 11:11 is an altogether unsupportable number of elevens. If I'm wrong, then I'll immediately change my prediction to 12/12/12 12:12. If that fails, then I'll expect our Lord to wait until at least 01/01/2101 before returning.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Glenn Beck isn't breaking with Fox completely. He's going to be doing specials for them as well as his radio program and his own web channel, GBTV.

‘GBTV Is the Future’: Beck Announces Details of New Live Streaming Video Network | Breaking news and opinion on The Blaze

In a story first reported tonight by The New York Times, Glenn Beck, and his company Mercury Radio Arts, are proud to announce the creation of GBTV - a live streaming video network featuring Glenn’s new daily two-hour show and a wide range of original and licensed information and entertainment programming.
The network will be the new home for Glenn Beck and his daily show, which will be expanding to two hours and feature Glenn’s unique fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. Mercury’s own S.E. Cupp and Brian Sack will be contributors to the new show when it launches on September 12th.
For months, Glenn has been teasing a major announcement that would change the way you receive information and entertainment. “GBTV is the future,” said Glenn. “The confines of traditional media no longer apply. GBTV is about getting active in the community, participating in stories, and finding new ways to deliver news, information and entertainment directly to the audience.”
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He believes it's time to stop talking about what's going on and do something about it, counteract the radicals and their destroy-America...eh-hmm, their "fundamental transformation of America" agenda.

It really is amazing what he has started to do and he's got American Christians standing with him.

LOL

How much more would Moses or Elijah have done?


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[St. Paul]

Could a moderator please delete these back and forth posts that have nothing to do with the original post. Glenn Beck losing his job had nothing to do with the original post.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Could a moderator please delete these back and forth posts that have nothing to do with the original post. Glenn Beck losing his job had nothing to do with the original post.

Actually, they do ...

... OP was about "current events".


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[Shesapeach]

Could a moderator please delete these back and forth posts that have nothing to do with the original post. Glenn Beck losing his job had nothing to do with the original post.

Frankly, St. Paul, Glenn Beck is the only main stream guy who is actually putting two and two together where current events and prophecy are concerned.

I guess his shows on Israel and the antichrist are a little too "out there" for the rest of the world.

 

[interpreter]

Jesus never mentions a rapture either in the Gospels or the Revelation, so I'm not buying it. Instead He said that it would be as in the days of Noah and Lot when the bad guys were taken and the good guys left. I pray that I am one of those "left behind" after the bad guys are taken in the Battle of Ar Mageddon.

 

[Shesapeach]

Jesus never mentions a rapture either in the Gospels or the Revelation, so I'm not buying it. Instead He said that it would be as in the days of Noah and Lot when the bad guys were taken and the good guys left. I pray that I am one of those "left behind" after the bad guys are taken in the Battle of Ar Mageddon.

Yes, he does. He speaks of a resurrection, immortality, a home in heaven, and the fact that he's going to come and take us there, confirming Psalm 50, Joel 2, Isaiah 26-19-21.


Jhn 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
Jhn 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?


Jhn 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if [it were] not [so], I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Jhn 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, [there] ye may be also.