The question cessationists must answer.

[W2L]

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Why do you think that apostles would have anything to do with solving the problem of divisions between Christians? What in the world are you getting at? Now, I've answered as best I can. You're almost making my brain hurt!

In corinthians the apostle paul condemned division. Why wouldn't modern apostles do the same?

 

[W2L]

WHAT???

You guys are saying that God sent apostles prophets and teachers. Correct? But you also said you dont follow apostles? Correct? Thats a contradiction.

 

[Hillsage]

By the way, the apostles did have disagreements at first but they overcame them quickly. What happened with modern apostles? They supposedly have been here for the last 2000 years, whats the problem? They cant fix their disagreements?

I repeat SHOW ME ONE SCRIPTURE proving your point in the last post. THEN show me one scripture proving the overcame them quickly. I swear I actually wonder if you either don't know the bible well enough to quote it, or you just think more highly of yourself (opinions) than the bible itself.

Remember W2L this is where you wear me out. I don't care about your unsubstantiated OPINIONS. And neither will God on the day of judgment. On that day He will even care less if you just were stupid and believed them wrong, than to listen to you give your OPINIONS. And that opinion of mine is scriptural.

 

[LoveofTruth]

To all:

Paul said of apostles

"9 For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men. 10 We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised. 11 Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace; 12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it: 13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day. 14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you. 15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. 16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me."(1 Cor 4:9-16 KJV)

But today we see many false apostles who would almost be the exact opposite of many of these statements.


but today the marks of a true apostle seem to be re worded like this below for the false apostles

"9 For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles first, as it were appointed to life: for we are made a glory unto the world, and to angels, and to men. 10 We are intelligent and worldly wise for Christ's sake, but ye are ignorant in Christ; we are strong, but ye are weak; ye are dishonourable, but we are highly respected. 11 Even unto this present hour we both never hunger, and never thirst, and are richly dressed as kings, and are never buffeted, and have great certain dwellingplaces; 12 And never labour, or work with our own hands: being rebuked, we curse being praised, we glory in it: 13 Being famous, we love it: we are made as the glory of the world, and are the sweet fragrance of all things unto this day. 14 I write not these things to bless you, but as my beloved sons I warn you to recognize us and give us our due...."

 

[Deborah D]

In corinthians the apostle paul condemned division. Why wouldn't modern apostles do the same?

They probably do, and so do believers who have the gift of prophecy and giving and administration and tongues and teaching and miracles and healing..... We have divisions because we rely on human reasoning instead of yielding to the Holy Spirit so that HE can lead us into all truth, as Jesus said He would.

As Hillsage pointed out, the early Apostles experienced plenty of division among themselves and in all the churches. Why would it be any different today?

Let me just propose this if you're so concerned about divisions among believers. I know I am.... In the early church, believers stuck together because their lives depended on it due to severe persecution. Christians in many parts of the world are suffering persecution, and it's getting worse by the day. I predict that as more believers in the U.S. are persecuted, we will see our need for one another as the body of Christ, and the divisions will diminish.

Edit: Hillsage, in case you read this post, autocorrect changed your name to Hillside! LOL
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[W2L]

I repeat SHOW ME ONE SCRIPTURE proving your point in the last post. THEN show me one scripture proving the overcame them quickly. I swear I actually wonder if you either don't know the bible well enough to quote it, or you just think more highly of yourself (opinions) than the bible itself.

Remember W2L this is where you wear me out. I don't care about your unsubstantiated OPINIONS. And neither will God on the day of judgment. On that day He will even care less if you just were stupid and believed them wrong, than to listen to you give your OPINIONS. And that opinion of mine is scriptural.

You wear me out too. You want me to believe that modern apostles and prophets are leading the church today, and have lead them straight into the divisive theology that divides the churches today.

 

[LoveofTruth]

The apostles of today are not fixing church division? Why not? They sure had alot to say about it in scripture.

I constantly seek to help other churches. But I often run into this one man ministry that is not in God's order called "the Pastor". The modern day pastor gift has dominated christendom and usurped the other gifts in an exalted place often. Yes there are true pastor gifts in the body, but the modern day "pastor" role is not as it should be.

I often speak of brothers and sisters edifying one another as they wait on the Lord in a home as they gather and to have a meal together in simplicity and faith with fellowship and love. But they (mostly the modern pastor) see this as attacking their kingdom they have built and they fight against the order of God often. Some, I have met are tender and will hear of many things. But if their role and finance is discussed and body ministry exhorted to be allowed in every gathering, then they fight against me and the truth from scripture, sadly.

When I see a group of believers receive the truth of God's order and body ministry I rejoice. I see them gather in homes and wait on the Lord and such wonderous meetings we have had.

 

[W2L]

They probably do, and so do believers who have the gift of prophecy and giving and administration and tongues and teaching and miracles and healing..... We have divisions because we rely on human reasoning instead of yielding to the Holy Spirit so that HE can lead us into all truth, as Jesus said He would.

Let me just propose this if you're so concerned about divisions among believers. I know I am.... In the early church, believers stuck together because their lives depended on it due to severe persecution. Christians in many parts of the world are suffering persecution, and it's getting worse by the day. I predict that as more believers in the U.S. are persecuted, we will see our need for one another as the body of Christ, and the divisions will diminish.
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Keep your head stuck in the sand. Break time for me.

 

[Deborah D]

You wear me out too. You want me to believe that modern apostles and prophets are leading the church today, and have lead them straight into the divisive theology that divides the churches today.

What??? Theologians lead us into division, and each of us who has our own take on the truth. Why do you keep singling out apostles and prophets?

 

[LoveofTruth]

You wear me out too. You want me to believe that modern apostles and prophets are leading the church today, and have lead them straight into the divisive theology that divides the churches today.

Christ leads by His Spirit in every part. Apostle gifts and prophet gifts do not have dominion over others faith. They are rather helpers as led by the Lord and very prescious as they function in faith. But all the body can have Christ work in then

Ephesians 4:15,16,

1 Cor 14:26-38

1 Peter 4:10,11

Colossians 3:15,16

Romans 12:1-8

1 Thess 5:11

etc

 

[LoveofTruth]

The apostles of today are not fixing church division? Why not? They sure had alot to say about it in scripture.

I have met few apostle gifts today. Many seem to be false apostles and deceitful workers exalting themselves sadly.

But tell me of these "apostles" you speak of and I can consider them.

 

[Hillsage]

In corinthians the apostle paul condemned division. Why wouldn't modern apostles do the same?

WHERE IN CORINTHIANS condem division?

I am an apostolic worker and have been for many years. Planting churches and setting in order things in churches to God's order and preaching the gospel .

Apostles can help top set in order the things that are lacking and we see Paul doing this as well as other apostles. They will often have a specific message for the churches they are sent.

But some today who claim to be apostle gifts are false apostles and exalt themselves, devour believers, take of them, smite them on the face in false authority, and mind earthly things, who seek their own and not the Lord's.

Personally I think that a lot of 'senior pastors' of mega churches are probably really modern day apostles. But because of the apostate church false doctrines of the early church, apostles as well as prophets have been pushed down below the GOD ALMIGHTY PASTOR which wasn't even in the BIBLICAL listing for authority in the local church.

1CO 12:28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, then healers, helpers, administrators, speakers in various kinds of tongues.

Some would say that the "teacher" is the pastor. And some also equate that with the Eph 4 ministerial or pastoral gifting.

I'm done all. Going to home church.

 

[Deborah D]

I constantly seek to help other churches. But I often run into this one man ministry that is not in God's order called "the Pastor". The modern day pastor gift has dominated christendom and usurped the other gifts in an exalted place often. I speak of brothers and sisters edifying one another as they wait on the Lord in a home as they gather and to have a meal together in simplicity and faith with fellowship and love. But they see this as attacking their kingdom they have built and they fight against the order of God often. Some, I have met are tender and will hear of many things. But if their role and finance is discussed and body ministry exhorted to be allowed in every gathering, then they fight against me and the truth from scripture, sadly.

When I see a group of believers receive the truth of God's order and body ministry I rejoice. I see them gather in homes and wait on the Lord and such wonderous meetings we have had.

I've seen what you're talking about. I agree that church services are too focused on the front of the church, not on how God wants to use each Christian to minister to one another as we gather.

 

[swordsman1]

They are messengers which means "apostolos", or apostles, sent ones.

We see this clearly in Acts 13 where Barnabas was either a prophet already (along with some other prophets) or a teacher or both and then the Holy Ghost spoke out in a church gathering and said

"Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. 2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. 3 And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away."(Acts 13:1-3 KJV)

and this being sent out with a message made Barnabas an apostle as we see very clearly in the next chapter Acts 14

"14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,"(Acts 14:14 KJV)

And yes the Lord sends apostles and make them apostles giving them this gift and he also uses the church to send them out and pray for them etc.

Maybe pause and consider these clear truths before you quickly respond

God bless

The Greek word apostolos has 2 meanings. The primary usage in the NT is a special, divinely appointed, eye-witness, Apostle. And is translated 'apostle'.

The secondary usage of apostolos means a regular messenger (used only 3 times in the NT) and it is almost universally translated as 'messenger', 'envoy' or 'delegate', and not 'apostle'.

The BDAG Lexicon entry for the word apostolos helps explains this:

ἀπόστολος,
...
① of messengers without extraordinary status delegate, envoy, messenger (opp. ὁ πέμψας) J 13:16. Of Epaphroditus, messenger of the Philippians Phil 2:25.—2 Cor 8:23.

② of messengers with extraordinary status, esp. of God’s messenger, envoy (cp. Epict. 3, 22, 23 of Cynic wise men: ἄγγελος ἀπὸ τ. Διὸς ἀπέσταλται).

ⓐ of prophets Lk 11:49; Rv 18:20; cp. 2:2; Eph 3:5.
ⓑ of Christ (w. ἀρχιερεύς) Hb 3:1 (cp. ApcEsdr 2:1 p. 25, 29 T.; Just., A I, 12, 9; the extra-Christian firman Sb 7240, 4f οὐκ ἔστιν θεὸς εἰ μὴ ὁ θεὸς μόνος. Μααμετ ἀπόστολος θεοῦ). GWetter, ‘D. Sohn Gottes’ 1916, 26ff.
ⓒ but predominately in the NT (of the apologists, only Just.) of a group of highly honored believers w. a special function as God’s envoys. Also Judaism had a figure known as apostle(שָׁלִיחַ; Schürer III 124f w. sources and lit.; Billerb. III 1926, 2–4; JTruron, Theology 51, ’48, 166–70; 341–43; GDix, ibid. 249–56; 385f; JBühner, art. ἄ. in EDNT I 142–46). In Christian circles, at first ἀ. denoted one who proclaimed the gospel, and was not strictly limited: Paulfreq. calls himself an ἀ.: Ro 1:1; 11:13; 1 Cor 1:1; 9:1f; 15:9; 2 Cor 1:1; Gal 1:1; Eph 1:1; Col 1:1; 1 Ti 1:1; 2:7; 2 Ti 1:1; Tit 1:1.—1 Cl 47:1. Of Barnabas Ac 14:14; 15:2. Of Andronicus and Junia (less prob. Junias, s. Ἰουνία) Ro 16:7. Of James, the Lord’s brother Gal1:19. Of Peter 1 Pt 1:1; 2 Pt 1:1. Then esp. of the 12 apostles οἱ δώδεκα ἀ. (cp. ParJer 9:20; AscIs 3:21; 4:3) Mt 10:2; Mk 3:14; Lk 22:14 (v.l. οἱ δώδεκα); cp. 6:13; 9:10; 17:5; Ac 1:26 (P-HMenoud, RHPR 37 ’57, 71–80); Rv 21:14; PtK 3 p. 15, 18. Peter and the apostles Ac 2:37; 5:29. Paul and apostles Pol 9:1 (cp. AcPlTh Aa I, 235 app. of Thecla). Gener. the apostles Mk6:30; Lk 24:10; 1 Cor 4:9; 9:5; 15:7; 2 Cor 11:13; 1 Th 2:7; Ac 1:2; 2:42f; 4:33, 35, 37; 5:2,12, 18, 34 v.l., 40; 6:6; 8:1, 14, 18; 9:27; 11:1; 14:4; 2 Pt 3:2; Jd 17; IEph 11:2; IMg 7:1; 13:2; ITr 2:2; 3:1; 7:1; IPhld 5:1; ISm 8:1; D ins; 11:3, 6. As a governing board, w. the elders Ac15:2, 4, 6, 22f; 16:4. As possessors of the most important spiritual gift 1 Cor 12:28f.Proclaimers of the gospel 1 Cl 42:1f; B 5:9; Hs 9, 17, 1. Prophesying strife 1 Cl 44:1. Workingmiracles 2 Cor 12:12. W. overseers, teachers and attendants Hv 3, 5, 1; Hs 9, 15, 4; w. teachers Hs 9, 25, 2; w. teachers, preaching to those who had fallen asleep Hs 9, 16, 5; w. var. Christian officials IMg 6:1; w. prophets Eph 2:20; D 11:3; Pol 6:3. Christ and the apostlesas the foundation of the church IMg 13:1; ITr 12; 2; cp. Eph 2:20. οἱ ἀ. and ἡ ἐκκλησία w. thethree patriarchs and the prophets IPhld 9:1. The Holy Scriptures named w. the ap. 2 Cl 14:2(sim. ApcSed 14:10 p. 136, 17 Ja.). Paul ironically refers to his opponents (or the originalapostles; s. s.v. ὑπερλίαν) as οἱ ὑπερλίαν ἀ. the super-apostles 2 Cor 11:5; 12:11. The orig. apostles he calls οἱ πρὸ ἐμοῦ ἀ. Gal 1:17; AcPlCor 2:4.—Harnack, Mission4 I 1923, 332ff(Eng. tr. I 319–31). WSeufert, D. Urspr. u. d. Bed. d. Apostolates 1887; EHaupt, Z. Verständnis d. Apostolates im NT 1896; EMonnier, La notion de l’Apostolat des origines àIrénée 1903; PBatiffol, RB n.s. 3, 1906, 520–32; Wlh., Einleitung2, 1911, 138–47; EBurton, AJT 16, 1912, 561–88, Gal comm. 1921, 363–84; RSchütz, Apostel u. Jünger 1921; EMeyer I265ff; III 255ff. HVogelstein, Development of the Apostolate in Judaism, etc.: HUCA 2, 1925, 99–123; JWagenmann, D. Stellg. d. Ap. Pls neben den Zwölf 1926; WMundle, D. Apostelbildder AG: ZNW 27, 1928, 36–54; KRengstorf, TW I 406–46 (s. critique by HConzelmann, TheTheol. of St. Luke ’60, 216, n. 1), Apost. u. Predigtamt ’34; J-LLeuba, Rech. exégét. rel. àl’apostolat dans le NT, diss. Neuchâtel ’36; PSaintyves, Deux mythes évangéliques, Les 12apôtres et les 72 disciples ’38; GSass, Apostelamt u. Kirche … paulin. Apostelbegr. ’39; EKäsemann, ZNW 40, ’41, 33–71; RLiechtenhan, D. urchr. Mission ’46; ESchweizer, D. Leben d. Herrn in d. Gemeinde u. ihren Diensten ’46; AFridrichsen, The Apostle and HisMessage ’47; HvCampenhausen, D. urchristl. Apostelbegr.: StTh 1, ’47, 96–130; HMosbech, ibid. 2, ’48, 166–200; ELohse, Ursprung u. Prägung des christl. Apostolates: TZ 9, ’53, 259–75; GKlein, Die 12 Apostel, ’60; FHahn, Mission in the NT, tr. FClarke, ’65; WSchmithals, TheOffice of the Apostle, tr. JSteely, ’69; KKertelge, Das Apostelamt des Paulus, BZ 14, ’70, 161–81. S. also ἐκκλησία end, esp. Holl and Kattenbusch; also HBetz, Hermeneia: Gal ’79, 74f (w. additional lit.); FAgnew, On the Origin of the Term ἀπόστολος: CBQ 38, ’76, 49–53 (survey ofdebate); KHaacker, NovT 30, ’88, 9–38 (Acts). Ins evidence (s. e.g. SIG index) relating to theverb ἀποστέλλω is almost gener. ignored in debate about the meaning of the noun.—DELGs.v. στέλλω A. EDNT. M-M. TW. Spicq.​

 

[Deborah D]

I have met few apostle gifts today. Many seem to be false apostles and deceitful workers exalting themselves sadly.

But tell me of these "apostles" you speak of and I can consider them.

Just so you know, W2L doesn't believe that the spiritual gift of apostleship is valid today. He thinks certain gifts ceased when the Apostles died. That's called Cessationism. You probably know this, but that's what this thread is about.

 

[Deborah D]

Christ leads by His Spirit in every part. Apostle gifts and prophet gifts do not have dominion over others faith. They are rather helpers as led by the Lord and very prescious as they function in faith. But all the body can have Christ work in then

Ephesians 4:15,16,

1 Cor 14:26-38

1 Peter 4:10,11

Colossians 3:15,16

Romans 12:1-8

1 Thess 5:11

etc

Good point! We are all servants!

 

[LoveofTruth]

Just so you know, W2L doesn't believe that the spiritual gift of apostleship is valid today. He thinks certain gifts ceased when the Apostles died. That's called Cessationism. You probably know this, but that's what this thread is about.

I know thanks for infoming me anyway.

I know many who wrongly say God does not give such gifts today. They say so with not one scripture. And they then will sadly deny the power when they see it or hear it.

Some having a form of godliness but deny the power from such withdraw thyself.

The word power there is the same as the power of the Spirit in Acts 1 in Greek.

 

[LoveofTruth]

The Greek word apostolos has 2 meanings. The primary usage in the NT is a special, divinely appointed, eye-witness, Apostle. And is translated 'apostle'.

The secondary usage of apostolos means a regular messenger (used only 3 times in the NT) and it is almost universally translated as 'messenger', 'envoy' or 'delegate', and not 'apostle'.

The BDAG Lexicon entry for the word apostolos helps explains this:

ἀπόστολος,
...
① of messengers without extraordinary status delegate, envoy, messenger (opp. ὁ πέμψας) J 13:16. Of Epaphroditus, messenger of the Philippians Phil 2:25.—2 Cor 8:23.

② of messengers with extraordinary status, esp. of God’s messenger, envoy (cp. Epict. 3, 22, 23 of Cynic wise men: ἄγγελος ἀπὸ τ. Διὸς ἀπέσταλται).

ⓐ of prophets Lk 11:49; Rv 18:20; cp. 2:2; Eph 3:5.
ⓑ of Christ (w. ἀρχιερεύς) Hb 3:1 (cp. ApcEsdr 2:1 p. 25, 29 T.; Just., A I, 12, 9; the extra-Christian firman Sb 7240, 4f οὐκ ἔστιν θεὸς εἰ μὴ ὁ θεὸς μόνος. Μααμετ ἀπόστολος θεοῦ). GWetter, ‘D. Sohn Gottes’ 1916, 26ff.
ⓒ but predominately in the NT (of the apologists, only Just.) of a group of highly honored believers w. a special function as God’s envoys. Also Judaism had a figure known as apostle(שָׁלִיחַ; Schürer III 124f w. sources and lit.; Billerb. III 1926, 2–4; JTruron, Theology 51, ’48, 166–70; 341–43; GDix, ibid. 249–56; 385f; JBühner, art. ἄ. in EDNT I 142–46). In Christian circles, at first ἀ. denoted one who proclaimed the gospel, and was not strictly limited: Paulfreq. calls himself an ἀ.: Ro 1:1; 11:13; 1 Cor 1:1; 9:1f; 15:9; 2 Cor 1:1; Gal 1:1; Eph 1:1; Col 1:1; 1 Ti 1:1; 2:7; 2 Ti 1:1; Tit 1:1.—1 Cl 47:1. Of Barnabas Ac 14:14; 15:2. Of Andronicus and Junia (less prob. Junias, s. Ἰουνία) Ro 16:7. Of James, the Lord’s brother Gal1:19. Of Peter 1 Pt 1:1; 2 Pt 1:1. Then esp. of the 12 apostles οἱ δώδεκα ἀ. (cp. ParJer 9:20; AscIs 3:21; 4:3) Mt 10:2; Mk 3:14; Lk 22:14 (v.l. οἱ δώδεκα); cp. 6:13; 9:10; 17:5; Ac 1:26 (P-HMenoud, RHPR 37 ’57, 71–80); Rv 21:14; PtK 3 p. 15, 18. Peter and the apostles Ac 2:37; 5:29. Paul and apostles Pol 9:1 (cp. AcPlTh Aa I, 235 app. of Thecla). Gener. the apostles Mk6:30; Lk 24:10; 1 Cor 4:9; 9:5; 15:7; 2 Cor 11:13; 1 Th 2:7; Ac 1:2; 2:42f; 4:33, 35, 37; 5:2,12, 18, 34 v.l., 40; 6:6; 8:1, 14, 18; 9:27; 11:1; 14:4; 2 Pt 3:2; Jd 17; IEph 11:2; IMg 7:1; 13:2; ITr 2:2; 3:1; 7:1; IPhld 5:1; ISm 8:1; D ins; 11:3, 6. As a governing board, w. the elders Ac15:2, 4, 6, 22f; 16:4. As possessors of the most important spiritual gift 1 Cor 12:28f.Proclaimers of the gospel 1 Cl 42:1f; B 5:9; Hs 9, 17, 1. Prophesying strife 1 Cl 44:1. Workingmiracles 2 Cor 12:12. W. overseers, teachers and attendants Hv 3, 5, 1; Hs 9, 15, 4; w. teachers Hs 9, 25, 2; w. teachers, preaching to those who had fallen asleep Hs 9, 16, 5; w. var. Christian officials IMg 6:1; w. prophets Eph 2:20; D 11:3; Pol 6:3. Christ and the apostlesas the foundation of the church IMg 13:1; ITr 12; 2; cp. Eph 2:20. οἱ ἀ. and ἡ ἐκκλησία w. thethree patriarchs and the prophets IPhld 9:1. The Holy Scriptures named w. the ap. 2 Cl 14:2(sim. ApcSed 14:10 p. 136, 17 Ja.). Paul ironically refers to his opponents (or the originalapostles; s. s.v. ὑπερλίαν) as οἱ ὑπερλίαν ἀ. the super-apostles 2 Cor 11:5; 12:11. The orig. apostles he calls οἱ πρὸ ἐμοῦ ἀ. Gal 1:17; AcPlCor 2:4.—Harnack, Mission4 I 1923, 332ff(Eng. tr. I 319–31). WSeufert, D. Urspr. u. d. Bed. d. Apostolates 1887; EHaupt, Z. Verständnis d. Apostolates im NT 1896; EMonnier, La notion de l’Apostolat des origines àIrénée 1903; PBatiffol, RB n.s. 3, 1906, 520–32; Wlh., Einleitung2, 1911, 138–47; EBurton, AJT 16, 1912, 561–88, Gal comm. 1921, 363–84; RSchütz, Apostel u. Jünger 1921; EMeyer I265ff; III 255ff. HVogelstein, Development of the Apostolate in Judaism, etc.: HUCA 2, 1925, 99–123; JWagenmann, D. Stellg. d. Ap. Pls neben den Zwölf 1926; WMundle, D. Apostelbildder AG: ZNW 27, 1928, 36–54; KRengstorf, TW I 406–46 (s. critique by HConzelmann, TheTheol. of St. Luke ’60, 216, n. 1), Apost. u. Predigtamt ’34; J-LLeuba, Rech. exégét. rel. àl’apostolat dans le NT, diss. Neuchâtel ’36; PSaintyves, Deux mythes évangéliques, Les 12apôtres et les 72 disciples ’38; GSass, Apostelamt u. Kirche … paulin. Apostelbegr. ’39; EKäsemann, ZNW 40, ’41, 33–71; RLiechtenhan, D. urchr. Mission ’46; ESchweizer, D. Leben d. Herrn in d. Gemeinde u. ihren Diensten ’46; AFridrichsen, The Apostle and HisMessage ’47; HvCampenhausen, D. urchristl. Apostelbegr.: StTh 1, ’47, 96–130; HMosbech, ibid. 2, ’48, 166–200; ELohse, Ursprung u. Prägung des christl. Apostolates: TZ 9, ’53, 259–75; GKlein, Die 12 Apostel, ’60; FHahn, Mission in the NT, tr. FClarke, ’65; WSchmithals, TheOffice of the Apostle, tr. JSteely, ’69; KKertelge, Das Apostelamt des Paulus, BZ 14, ’70, 161–81. S. also ἐκκλησία end, esp. Holl and Kattenbusch; also HBetz, Hermeneia: Gal ’79, 74f (w. additional lit.); FAgnew, On the Origin of the Term ἀπόστολος: CBQ 38, ’76, 49–53 (survey ofdebate); KHaacker, NovT 30, ’88, 9–38 (Acts). Ins evidence (s. e.g. SIG index) relating to theverb ἀποστέλλω is almost gener. ignored in debate about the meaning of the noun.—DELGs.v. στέλλω A. EDNT. M-M. TW. Spicq.​

Barnabas was a prophet or teacher in Acts 13 and then sent out by the Holy Ghost and the church with a message with Paul as well. This made him and apostle Acts 14:14.

as clear as a new day to the unbiased reader I believe.

God bless

 

[Deborah D]

The Greek word apostolos has 2 meanings. The primary usage in the NT is a special, divinely appointed, eye-witness, Apostle. And is translated 'apostle'.

The secondary usage of apostolos means a regular messenger (used only 3 times in the NT) and it is almost universally translated as 'messenger', 'envoy' or 'delegate', and not 'apostle'.

The BDAG Lexicon entry for the word apostolos helps explains this:

ἀπόστολος,
...
① of messengers without extraordinary status delegate, envoy, messenger (opp. ὁ πέμψας) J 13:16. Of Epaphroditus, messenger of the Philippians Phil 2:25.—2 Cor 8:23.

② of messengers with extraordinary status, esp. of God’s messenger, envoy (cp. Epict. 3, 22, 23 of Cynic wise men: ἄγγελος ἀπὸ τ. Διὸς ἀπέσταλται).

ⓐ of prophets Lk 11:49; Rv 18:20; cp. 2:2; Eph 3:5.
ⓑ of Christ (w. ἀρχιερεύς) Hb 3:1 (cp. ApcEsdr 2:1 p. 25, 29 T.; Just., A I, 12, 9; the extra-Christian firman Sb 7240, 4f οὐκ ἔστιν θεὸς εἰ μὴ ὁ θεὸς μόνος. Μααμετ ἀπόστολος θεοῦ). GWetter, ‘D. Sohn Gottes’ 1916, 26ff.
ⓒ but predominately in the NT (of the apologists, only Just.) of a group of highly honored believers w. a special function as God’s envoys. Also Judaism had a figure known as apostle(שָׁלִיחַ; Schürer III 124f w. sources and lit.; Billerb. III 1926, 2–4; JTruron, Theology 51, ’48, 166–70; 341–43; GDix, ibid. 249–56; 385f; JBühner, art. ἄ. in EDNT I 142–46). In Christian circles, at first ἀ. denoted one who proclaimed the gospel, and was not strictly limited: Paulfreq. calls himself an ἀ.: Ro 1:1; 11:13; 1 Cor 1:1; 9:1f; 15:9; 2 Cor 1:1; Gal 1:1; Eph 1:1; Col 1:1; 1 Ti 1:1; 2:7; 2 Ti 1:1; Tit 1:1.—1 Cl 47:1. Of Barnabas Ac 14:14; 15:2. Of Andronicus and Junia (less prob. Junias, s. Ἰουνία) Ro 16:7. Of James, the Lord’s brother Gal1:19. Of Peter 1 Pt 1:1; 2 Pt 1:1. Then esp. of the 12 apostles οἱ δώδεκα ἀ. (cp. ParJer 9:20; AscIs 3:21; 4:3) Mt 10:2; Mk 3:14; Lk 22:14 (v.l. οἱ δώδεκα); cp. 6:13; 9:10; 17:5; Ac 1:26 (P-HMenoud, RHPR 37 ’57, 71–80); Rv 21:14; PtK 3 p. 15, 18. Peter and the apostles Ac 2:37; 5:29. Paul and apostles Pol 9:1 (cp. AcPlTh Aa I, 235 app. of Thecla). Gener. the apostles Mk6:30; Lk 24:10; 1 Cor 4:9; 9:5; 15:7; 2 Cor 11:13; 1 Th 2:7; Ac 1:2; 2:42f; 4:33, 35, 37; 5:2,12, 18, 34 v.l., 40; 6:6; 8:1, 14, 18; 9:27; 11:1; 14:4; 2 Pt 3:2; Jd 17; IEph 11:2; IMg 7:1; 13:2; ITr 2:2; 3:1; 7:1; IPhld 5:1; ISm 8:1; D ins; 11:3, 6. As a governing board, w. the elders Ac15:2, 4, 6, 22f; 16:4. As possessors of the most important spiritual gift 1 Cor 12:28f.Proclaimers of the gospel 1 Cl 42:1f; B 5:9; Hs 9, 17, 1. Prophesying strife 1 Cl 44:1. Workingmiracles 2 Cor 12:12. W. overseers, teachers and attendants Hv 3, 5, 1; Hs 9, 15, 4; w. teachers Hs 9, 25, 2; w. teachers, preaching to those who had fallen asleep Hs 9, 16, 5; w. var. Christian officials IMg 6:1; w. prophets Eph 2:20; D 11:3; Pol 6:3. Christ and the apostlesas the foundation of the church IMg 13:1; ITr 12; 2; cp. Eph 2:20. οἱ ἀ. and ἡ ἐκκλησία w. thethree patriarchs and the prophets IPhld 9:1. The Holy Scriptures named w. the ap. 2 Cl 14:2(sim. ApcSed 14:10 p. 136, 17 Ja.). Paul ironically refers to his opponents (or the originalapostles; s. s.v. ὑπερλίαν) as οἱ ὑπερλίαν ἀ. the super-apostles 2 Cor 11:5; 12:11. The orig. apostles he calls οἱ πρὸ ἐμοῦ ἀ. Gal 1:17; AcPlCor 2:4.—Harnack, Mission4 I 1923, 332ff(Eng. tr. I 319–31). WSeufert, D. Urspr. u. d. Bed. d. Apostolates 1887; EHaupt, Z. Verständnis d. Apostolates im NT 1896; EMonnier, La notion de l’Apostolat des origines àIrénée 1903; PBatiffol, RB n.s. 3, 1906, 520–32; Wlh., Einleitung2, 1911, 138–47; EBurton, AJT 16, 1912, 561–88, Gal comm. 1921, 363–84; RSchütz, Apostel u. Jünger 1921; EMeyer I265ff; III 255ff. HVogelstein, Development of the Apostolate in Judaism, etc.: HUCA 2, 1925, 99–123; JWagenmann, D. Stellg. d. Ap. Pls neben den Zwölf 1926; WMundle, D. Apostelbildder AG: ZNW 27, 1928, 36–54; KRengstorf, TW I 406–46 (s. critique by HConzelmann, TheTheol. of St. Luke ’60, 216, n. 1), Apost. u. Predigtamt ’34; J-LLeuba, Rech. exégét. rel. àl’apostolat dans le NT, diss. Neuchâtel ’36; PSaintyves, Deux mythes évangéliques, Les 12apôtres et les 72 disciples ’38; GSass, Apostelamt u. Kirche … paulin. Apostelbegr. ’39; EKäsemann, ZNW 40, ’41, 33–71; RLiechtenhan, D. urchr. Mission ’46; ESchweizer, D. Leben d. Herrn in d. Gemeinde u. ihren Diensten ’46; AFridrichsen, The Apostle and HisMessage ’47; HvCampenhausen, D. urchristl. Apostelbegr.: StTh 1, ’47, 96–130; HMosbech, ibid. 2, ’48, 166–200; ELohse, Ursprung u. Prägung des christl. Apostolates: TZ 9, ’53, 259–75; GKlein, Die 12 Apostel, ’60; FHahn, Mission in the NT, tr. FClarke, ’65; WSchmithals, TheOffice of the Apostle, tr. JSteely, ’69; KKertelge, Das Apostelamt des Paulus, BZ 14, ’70, 161–81. S. also ἐκκλησία end, esp. Holl and Kattenbusch; also HBetz, Hermeneia: Gal ’79, 74f (w. additional lit.); FAgnew, On the Origin of the Term ἀπόστολος: CBQ 38, ’76, 49–53 (survey ofdebate); KHaacker, NovT 30, ’88, 9–38 (Acts). Ins evidence (s. e.g. SIG index) relating to theverb ἀποστέλλω is almost gener. ignored in debate about the meaning of the noun.—DELGs.v. στέλλω A. EDNT. M-M. TW. Spicq.​

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The Greek word apostolos has 2 meanings. The primary usage in the NT is a special, divinely appointed, eye-witness, Apostle.

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the Greek does not say "eye witness"

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from 649; a delegate; specially, an ambassador of the Gospel; officially a commissioner of Christ ("apostle") (with miraculous powers):--apostle, messenger, he that is sent.