The Quadrinity of God

[miknik5]

But God is an eternal Trinity, 1/3 of the Trinity didn't leave and become a human. And it would have been Aramaic translated into Greek.

I came forth from THE FATHER and into the world

AGAIN

I leave the world and GO BACK to THE FATHER


(Again and go back are repeated actions)

 

[ViaCrucis]

Should read "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God (which is the Eternal Trinity). Jesus never said he was the second person of the Trinity. He is a Son of Triune Deity.

No.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ScottA]

“Then God said, ‘Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness’” -- (Genesis 1:26).

Christ, the Word of God, took on the nature of Man through His incarnation.

The nature of Man is now united in the nature of God through the “bride” of Christ.

"His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness...so that through them you may participate in the divine nature" -- (2 Peter 1:3-4).

We participate in the divine nature of God through the Man that is in Christ and through the Holy Spirit that is in Man. Through Christ and the Holy Spirit, the Oneness of God now includes the nature of Man.

Therefore, God, as One divine being, is now Father, Son, Holy Spirit and Man.

A Quadrinity, and not a Trinity.

"Those who will believe in Me...that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us...And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: I in them, and You in Me" -- (John 17:20-23).

We are Christ's body.

 

[miknik5]

The HOLY SPIRIT came forth from
THE FATHER and THE SON: the fullness of GOD made manifest in the Spirit

And it is only through CHRIST who came forth from the Fsther and into the world that we have access to The FATHER by ONE SPIRIT.

Not two

 

[Colter]

I came forth from THE FATHER and into the world

AGAIN

I leave the world and GO BACK to THE FATHER


(Again and go back are repeated actions)

Jesus kept it simple, he stretched the minds of the Jews as far as he could. A Trinity is an indivisible unity, Jesus referred to it as Father.

 

[miknik5]

Jesus kept it simple, he stretched the minds of the Jews as far as he could. A Trinity is an indivisible unity, Jesus referred to it as Father.

I prefer to just go with what HE actually said to Phillip regarding HE and THE FATHER as ONE

 

[Wunderlust]

Regarding the Original Heresy, I mean, Original Post...

The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are unchanging. Jesus took on human flesh, but He did not incorporate it into God's divinity.

If God created something, then incorporated it into Himself, He would be changing, and thus not God. That would mean God is now more God than He was before humanity.

There is no divinity to human nature. Humans are not divine. Humans are redeemed through Christ.

 

[David Rhodes]

Regarding the Original Heresy, I mean, Original Post...

The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are unchanging. Jesus took on human flesh, but He did not incorporate it into God's divinity.

If God created something, then incorporated it into Himself, He would be changing, and thus not God. That would mean God is now more God than He was before humanity.

There is no divinity to human nature. Humans are not divine. Humans are redeemed through Christ.

Yes I strongly agree with this. Its 100% correct

 

[Doveaman]

So Nicene Creed had no bearing on your drawing your conclusions?

Nope. The Nicene Creed is still not clear to me.

Is God himself a person?

Is God one person existing as three persons?

IOW first you looked into the creed, went with it, then added your flavor to it, or not exactly but something along those lines?

Not exactly.

God is one Spirit, one Holy Spirit.

The Father and Son eternally existed in the union of that one Holy Spirit.

Man is now included in the union of that one Holy Spirit with the Father and Son.

God is one Holy Spirit who now exists as Father, Son, and Man.

"Those who will believe in Me...that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us...that they may be one just as We are one: I in them, and You in Me" -- (John 17:20-23).

The Father is in the Son and the Son is in Man through the union of one Holy Spirit.

One divine union.

 

[Doveaman]

Should read "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God (which is the Eternal Trinity). Jesus never said he was the second person of the Trinity.

Yeah, that idea came from the Nicene Creed, not from Jesus.

He is a Son of Triune Deity.

Does this mean that Jesus is the Son of three different persons in the Deity?

 

[Doveaman]

Regarding the Original Heresy, I mean, Original Post...

Just because the Original Post disagrees with the Nicene Creed doesn't mean it is heresy.

Does it disagree with the Bible is what matters.

The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are unchanging.

Actually, the Word changed into a human, thereby becoming the only begotten Son.

Jesus took on human flesh, but He did not incorporate it into God's divinity.

I agree.

Instead the divinity was incorporated into the human so that the human now share in the unchanging divinity:

"His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness...so that through them you may participate in the divine nature" -- (2 Peter 1:3-4).

If God created something, then incorporated it into Himself, He would be changing, and thus not God. That would mean God is now more God than He was before humanity.

It is the human that has become more, not God.

The divine nature does not change, it is simply incorporated into the human so that the human changes by becoming divine.

"Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness" --(Genesis 1:26)

Man was created to be like God. No mere human can be like God. To be like God requires that Man obtain divinity.

There is no divinity to human nature. Humans are not divine.

Are you denying that Jesus was a divine human, the firstborn among many human brethren?

If Jesus was both human and divine, then your argument does not hold.

He was.

 

[Colter]

Yeah, that idea came from the Nicene Creed, not from Jesus.
Does this mean that Jesus is the Son of three different persons in the Deity?

No, the Trinity is an indivisible unity.

 

[Doveaman]

No, the Trinity is an indivisible unity.

So is the Trinity the Father of Jesus?

If Jesus was conceived by the person called the Holy Spirit, then why is the Holy Spirit not his Father?