Good IF you reject all that all men say,If so, then you are a liar and I reject whatever you say.
Don’t Biblical scholars says the Bible was written by men?Good IF you reject all that all men say,
until proven truth. Do not accept anything, not even your own words, until and unless proven true in line with all God's Word.
Luke 10:21Don’t Biblical scholars says the Bible was written by men?
Then would you say that you're right to lecture anyone on moral philosophy is no more valid than anyone else? Seeing how you are only voicing your opinion with a "to me" statement.By letting them know they’re wrong “to me” instead of universally wrong.
That was a yes or no question...Luke 10:21
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THe answer was pretty straightforward - and better than yes or no could be-That was a yes or no question...
Yes and no. If the person has a different moral philosophy than me, then yes, there’s no point in “lecturing” them.Then would you say that you're right to lecture anyone on moral philosophy is no more valid than anyone else? Seeing how you are only voicing your opinion with a "to me" statement.
I’ll take that as “I don’t know”, in lieu of an actual answer...THe answer was pretty straightforward - and better than yes or no could be-
since Yahweh hides salvation from scholars,
"it doesn't matter"
I think that's a fair statement. Perhaps you can explain it to Manchild better than I can. Thank you.Yes and no. If the person has a different moral philosophy than me, then yes, there’s no point in “lecturing” them.
If they have the same basic philosophy, then you can have a meaningful conversation, since within a subjective system you can have objective statements.
Your problem is; you are convinced the truth leads to your idea of God; I'm saying it does not.This was one of two things needed to ever know the truth.
All men are liars. Had to accept this, or never would have made it.
God is faithful and true, only God can save anyone. Gladly received this Word , and it has made all the difference all my life !
After knowing that all men are liars, it becomes possible to learn the truth. Not necessary (even God will not force you), but at least possible. As even the Apostles said, whatever you are told, even if by an Apostle, or a so-called angel of LIGHT, TEST EVERYTHING ! TEST< TEST< TEST
and then, IF you care to seek the Truth, and keep seeking the Truth, you will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free ...... (from religion, finance, warfare, violence, the devil, the flesh, the world's power over you, all deception)
I think that's a fair statement. Perhaps you can explain it to Manchild better than I can. Thank you.
Good IF you reject all that all men say,
until proven truth. Do not accept anything, not even your own words, until and unless proven true in line with all God's Word.
Can you demonstrate and coherently define how the Moabite women were raped by their Israelite captors? Or that rape being "wrong" is anything more than just the subjective "to me" opinion of the majority who declared it to be so? I figure that question is going to remain a mystery like the number of licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop.You were doing so well, until these last six words.
You don't have 'God's word'. You don't even have a means of determining that 'God's word' exists in the first place. Nor a means of gleaning what it is, even if it exists. Nor any reason why it must necessarily be adopted as the truth, even if it exists and you can glean what it is.
As such, you have no business calling 'God's word' the truth. Truth is demonstrable, and coherently defined. What you have is neither.
Sure. I don't have any butter pecan ice cream. That is a problem.Don't worry about me. I am the least of your problems.
Can you demonstrate and coherently define how the Moabite women were raped by their Israelite captors?
Or that rape being "wrong" is anything more than just the subjective "to me" opinion of the majority who declared it to be so?
1 Corinthians 6and go to an eternity in hell. Behavior is utterly irrelevant.
Everything changes.Care to give an example of something objectively true that does change?
Thats a matter of faith and not objectively true..... even if it actually true.Yahweh never changes.
He never changes....
post # ?Glad you agree. I have provided some of the evidence on this thread.