The Press Declares the Alt:Right to be Bigotted and Terrorist

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Trump damage around world is insurmountable I think. World take Nazi very serious and nobody forget Trump statement. Already Trump behave badly since become President. This make far worse. Until Trump gone is stain on USA.
Trump tried to do the right thing but he couldn't refrain from lashing out. He was voted into office and we own this, but ultimately, this man is responsible for his own behavior. If he can't condemn Neo-nazis I have a hard time believing he has any moral authority whatsoever. I hate the idea of impeachment but I tend to agree, it's not going to get better until he is gone. I've exhausted my benefit of a doubt with him.
 
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It's nice to see someone here acknowledging that driving a car into a crowd to kill and maim at random is a terrorist act.

Of course it was. One among many, but the only fatal one, thank God.
 
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Perhaps you should take the time to read the post to which I was responding. It claimed that white gangs hadn't been violent for over 100 years. That is incorrect. We weren't discussing monuments.

No, I have gone back through them. You are confusing two separate arguments.
#44 was you answering pappy about violence.
The next two (45-46) are you and I about city councils and monuments.
 
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If Nazis? YES! And is nothing to do with skin color. If Nazis all purple is still Nazis!

Nazi definition: a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Maybe the definition has changed in the mind of some people, but that's the definition. Now people think it means someone who hates black people, or someone who embodies all that the devil himself represents.

Who excuse violence? I not hear people excuse violence but maybe someone?

Anyone who watches the violence being conducted on BOTH sides of the incident in Charlottesville, and only focuses on the violence done by the white supremacists.

President of USA say Nazi and KKK side have some "very fine people". Is wrong. Is very bad. Now will hurt USA around world until Trump gone. Nobody forget president who do this.

What I took from that statement was an attempt to take a neutral position rather than take sides with one or the other group.
 
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Nazi definition: a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Maybe the definition has changed in the mind of some people, but that's the definition. Now people think it means someone who hates black people, or someone who embodies all that the devil himself represents.

Is group which killed over tens millions. Is all kills not part of your definition? Today is by ideology. Not complicated for most.

Anyone who watches the violence being conducted on BOTH sides of the incident in Charlottesville, and only focuses on the violence done by the white supremacists.

What I took from that statement was an attempt to take a neutral position rather than take sides with one or the other group.

You repeat attempt from Trump supporters to make OK Trump statement that some on Nazi and KKK side are "very fine people". Failed propaganda attempt as world wide except Trump supporters condemn Trump for defending Nazis and KKK. Many on many President Councils resign. Complete President Councils resign in group. Because of Trump statement.

Bad propaganda. Failed propaganda.
 
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If I have posted this in the wrong forum, please move it to the correct one, thank you.

First of all, I must point out that I am horrified at the activity in Charlottesville. NOBODY on the Left, Right or Center has ANY right to kill, hurt, or in any other way injure anyone else.

Now, to begin at the beginning, the trouble began when several states, mostly driven by politically correct citizens, demanded that the statues of various heroes of the South be taken down. That's okay. It is their state, and every citizen has the right to be heard. I may be for or against such a measure, but I am allowed to state an opinion, so that's cool.

What I do have a problem with is taking down statues of General Robert E. Lee. If the PC Police want to vilify him, well, freedom of the press means that whoever owns the press has the freedom to print what they want. Robert E. Lee was a pious church man, and, notwithstanding what most web sites say, he was not in favor of slavery or secession. Before the Civil war began, he was asked to take over as Superintendent of West Point. When a Black man came to Communion (Episcopalian) after the war, Lee was the only man in the congregation to come down to the communion rail with him and kneel beside him.

He graduated #2 from West Point. When the Civil War started, he was offered several prominent posts in the Union Army. When Virginia seceded, he followed his own state into the Confederacy, even though he was opposed to the secession.

He is a historic figure, and making him an unperson will confuse all future students of the Civil War. General Grant will end up taking the surrender of this obscure Southern General that nobody knows, because he has been erased from History

Robert E Lee was in opposition to Confederate monuments, on account of how they kept open the wounds of war. If he were here I don't think he'd object to the monument of him being taken down. His descendants & those of Jackson, other Confederates are also for them being taken down.
 
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Is group which killed over tens millions. Is all kills not part of your definition? Today is by ideology. Not complicated for most.

As did Communism. But are we calling a group that refers to themselves that way here in America a hate group? Of course not! Only conservatives get that label. Communist Party USA
 
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As did Communism. But are we calling a group that refers to themselves that way here in America a hate group? Of course not! Only conservatives get that label. Communist Party USA

Plenty of conservatives like myself don't get labeled as being a part of a hate group, on account of how we don't support hateful things like white supremacy. Conservatives and alt-right are 2 different things, even if there's overlapping "membership". Lord knows I'd never be a part of the alt-right but I am a conservative
 
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Plenty of conservatives like myself don't get labeled as being a part of a hate group, on account of how we don't support hateful things like white supremacy. Conservatives and alt-right are 2 different things, even if there's overlapping "membership". Lord knows I'd never be a part of the alt-right but I am a conservative

Are you an NRA member?
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Are you a Christian, Aldebaran?

Are you about to try to convince me that a Christian isn't allowed to own a gun? Don't bother.
 
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No, Aldebaran, I was asking you the question that I asked.

Save some time and just get to what you want to say. If you want to know my beliefs, look at my profile.
 
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Save some time and just get to what you want to say. If you want to know my beliefs, look at my profile.

What, like you did with your snarky poster? I asked you the most basic and direct question, and instead of answering it, you got paranoid & in a huff.

Well, I guess you did answer the question, just not directly.
 
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What, like you did with your snarky poster? I asked you the most basic and direct question, and instead of answering it, you got paranoid & in a huff.

Well, I guess you did answer the question, just not directly.

I'm Christian and non denominational. I am not a member of the NRA but am a gun owner.
 
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I'm Christian and non denominational. I am not a member of the NRA but am a gun owner.

Thank you for answering. I'm not a member of the actual NRA or the fictional Nasty Racist Alarmists you asked me about. I'm a gun owner, too.
 
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Thank you for answering. I'm not a member of the actual NRA or the fictional Nasty Racist Alarmists you asked me about. I'm a gun owner, too.

Then why, when I asked you if you were a member of the NRA, your answer was:
Of course not, Aldebran. I'm a Christian.
After this, you asked me if I'm a Christian. What connection were you attempting to make?
 
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Then why, when I asked you if you were a member of the NRA, your answer was:

Because, as I just explained to you, I'm not a member of the NRA. The better question is, why did you ask me if I was?

After this, you asked me if I'm a Christian. What connection were you attempting to make?

To know if you're a Christian. Plenty of folks on this forum aren't.
 
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