The Passover.

[YHWH_will_uplift]

Sounds like you are just making this up as you go. Read The TaNaKh regarding Keruvim, hopefully you will learn something...

No, I'm not.
Anyways just pm me if want to discuss further: this thread is about addressing this man's issue regarding the Passover: not for us to flood His thread with unrelated topics.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

It's not what I think it's what's stated in plain sight for everyone to see.

It is plainly stated that Yeshua was Miriam's biological child. You need glasses. If Yeshua is not human, that is the spirit of antichrist... 1 John 4:3

 

[Kenneth Watwood]

Friend....the word.....scripture comes from a word which means the word of God written. If your church does not teach this.....flee out of that place .

My church like most churches does teach this .I am doing my best to change this.Tomorrow I will explain why.

 

[kepha31]

Friend....the word.....scripture comes from a word which means the word of God written. If your church does not teach this.....flee out of that place .

Do you have a verse that says the "Word of God" is confined to the written word? BibleGateway has an excellent bible search. You will get 180-200 results for "Word of God". I haven't been able to find any where it just means written, maybe you can.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

No, I'm not.
Anyways just pm me if want to discuss further: this thread is about addressing this man's issue regarding the Passover: not for us to flood His thread with unrelated topics.

You say you are Messianic. Are you Jewish? I have never ever heard any Messianic say what you have. If you want to explain yourself, that is fine, but you are wrong in YOUR interpretation and you should not be teaching others these things...

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

You say you are Messianic. Are you Jewish? I have never ever heard any Messianic say what you have. If you want to explain yourself, that is fine, but you are wrong in YOUR interpretation and you should not be teaching others these things...

Yes I am Jewish. If Jesus has a biological mother or father then how does He follow the order of Melchisedec who has no earthly father or mother nor beginning or end of days?

 

[Thedictator]

I believe in some parts of the Bible but not the parts that insults God. I am a Christian.

There are people who think they are Christians but are not in reality. Matthew 7:21-23 states that.
There those who are false teachers who attack the Word of God (Matthew 7:15) These people have no fellowship with God's True children.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Yes I am Jewish. If Jesus has a biological mother or father then how does He follow the order of Melchisedec who has no earthly father or mother nor beginning or end of days?

Then you say He is not human. God is spirit...Miriam is human. The Melekh Tzaddik was a Righteous King...both Priest and King...just as Yeshua.

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

It is plainly stated that Yeshua was Miriam's biological child. You need glasses. If Yeshua is not human, that is the spirit of antichrist... 1 John 4:3

You don't need earthly parents to become human: Adam's creation and Jesus' birth are proof of this.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

You don't need earthly parents to become human: Adam's creation and Jesus' birth are proof of this.

So you are saying Yeshua is a created being, just like Adam. If so, then I assume you are NOT Trinitarian...

 

[aiki]

But the Bible is not God's word.It is what men wrote about God.

This is not the claim the Bible makes for itself.

If the Bible is just a book by men about God, how has it any authority to proclaim truth about God? What makes one man's ideas about God any more true than any other man's ideas about Him? Since none of us can see God directly and speak with Him, how can anyone claim to know Him and be a revealer of His mind and will? If God does not reach out to Man and reveal Himself, He simply cannot be known. What you're doing, then, in declaring that the Bible is not the word of God is reducing the Bible's revelation of God to mere speculation. Why, then, trust any of it at all?

Fortunately, the Bible bears the marks of supernatural revelation. It is not just a "book by men about God." Here's a short list of reasons why:

1. Fulfilled prophecy.
2. Thematic unity.
3. Survivability.
4. Archaeological/historical accuracy.
5. Impact upon cultures and individuals.

Taken together, these aspects of the Bible - and a number of others besides - make a very strong cumulative case for the supernatural superintendency of God over the creation of Scripture. It is not just a book about God written by men, but the very word of God.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

My church like most churches does teach this .I am doing my best to change this.Tomorrow I will explain why.

Thank you - this explains why you posted such grievous errors.
Your church is in grievous and totally wrong error if this is so as you posted,
and explaining it only makes it worse: it only explains why they teach the errors of the enemy,
but
it does not explain why you post it.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

There are people who think they are Christians but are not in reality. Matthew 7:21-23 states that.
There those who are false teachers who attack the Word of God (Matthew 7:15) These people have no fellowship with God's True children.

Exactly as written it would be,
so it is,
yes.
Amein.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

But how to we know that it's actually His Word?

I only read this question then stopped, again.
You and several others as well, (not uniquely you, in other words),
for years continue to ask this,
perhaps
as written "always learning or increasing in knowledge, but never coming to knowledge of the truth." because of
not seeking the truth from YHWH,
not learning the truth from YHWH,
admittedly accepting the wrong errors/ teachings/ pagan practices/ heretical doctrines/ that have been in the contents of many posts/
as well as the teachings of worldly carnal assemblies for centuries
thus
not trusting nor relying on YHWH for HIS WORD,
relying on men/ men in error/ men opposed to HIS WORD (clearly)
instead of
relying on YHWH HIMSELF, and HIS PROMISES for TRUTH, in HIS WORD.

To be saved from man's multitude of errors,
for any person on earth,
is a miracle,
and is by faith and trusting YHWH in JESUS, relying on HIM, to be able to seek and to know the truth as HE GRANTS UNDERSTANDING AS HIS WORD SAYS OVER AND OVER AGAIN, always.

Then, it is a person's choice to follow YHWH, to serve YHWH,
or to
continue in heathen idolatrous practices taught by religious leaders ever since JESUS walked on earth, and before that ,
which idolatrous practices and doctrines grow daily in the world,
and
which ONLY YHWH is able, ever, to set anyone on earth free from,
exactly
as HIS WORD SAYS, always. Forever.

 

[CrystalDragon]

I only read this question then stopped, again.
You and several others as well, (not uniquely you, in other words),
for years continue to ask this,
perhaps
as written "always learning or increasing in knowledge, but never coming to knowledge of the truth." because of
not seeking the truth from YHWH,
not learning the truth from YHWH,
admittedly accepting the wrong errors/ teachings/ pagan practices/ heretical doctrines/ that have been in the contents of many posts/
as well as the teachings of worldly carnal assemblies for centuries
thus
not trusting nor relying on YHWH for HIS WORD,
relying on men/ men in error/ men opposed to HIS WORD (clearly)
instead of
relying on YHWH HIMSELF, and HIS PROMISES for TRUTH, in HIS WORD.

To be saved from man's multitude of errors,
for any person on earth,
is a miracle,
and is by faith and trusting YHWH in JESUS, relying on HIM, to be able to seek and to know the truth as HE GRANTS UNDERSTANDING AS HIS WORD SAYS OVER AND OVER AGAIN, always.

Then, it is a person's choice to follow YHWH, to serve YHWH,
or to
continue in heathen idolatrous practices taught by religious leaders ever since JESUS walked on earth, and before that ,
which idolatrous practices and doctrines grow daily in the world,
and
which ONLY YHWH is able, ever, to set anyone on earth free from,
exactly
as HIS WORD SAYS, always. Forever.

Don't you think seeking the truth is looking at things from ALL angles and not just staying in a bubble of what you think is the truth without actually investigating it? The fact that you just stop at a post that asks "How do we know?" shows that you are trying to be ignorant and ignore any other information that doesn't conform to your worldview as you understand it.

 

[Vicomte13]

The Passover.Exodus Ch.12 As I see this God is being accused of murdering innocent Egyptian children.
I do not believe that God did this.Can we discuss?

God kills everybody. He did so to the firstborn that night in Egypt rather dramatically. (Pharaoh himself did not die, because in ancient Egypt the firstborn became priests, while the second-born were the heirs. So, by killing the firstborn, God wiped out the Egyptian priesthood and its future.)

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Don't you think seeking the truth is looking at things from ALL angles

No. Blatantly sinful that way is - why JESUS rebuked Peter - thinking the way of mankind,
instead of (anti-) the way of YHWH.

 

[CrystalDragon]

No. Blatantly sinful that way is - why JESUS rebuked Peter - thinking the way of mankind,
instead of (anti-) the way of YHWH.

But if the way of YHWH was developed over time isn't it necessary to investigate truth claims to see what the truth actually is?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

But if the way of YHWH was developed over time isn't it necessary to investigate truth claims to see what the truth actually is?

YHWH'S WAY, TRUTH, LIFE has not changed at all since before HE CREATED all things.
Only if and when YHWH takes the veil away,
only if and when YHWH grants experiential knowledge of TRUTH,
even concerning that Jesus Christ is the Messiah,
only when YHWH grants this miracle from heaven, Himself, is the TRUTH even sought, and YHWH Willing, accepted and believed.

To say anything like His Way, or His Word, changed or developed is a lie, to say that happened is to totally disrespect His Word, His Truth, and Christ Crucified all over again. (like men's traditions horribly do every day)...

It sounds like you haven't even read Ephesians, Colossians, Timothy, Thessalonians, nor 1st John, nor most of the New Testament, yourself.

It sounds like, according to YHWH'S WORD, you haven't received understanding from Him which is required according to His Word in order to understand anything at all,
since so much of the contents of your posts are directly opposed to His Word.

His Word will not change, even unto the ends of the earth, for eternity.

Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, according to all of His Word.

Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today, and forever.

YHWH created all things simple.

Mankind/ men/ society came up with many devices (anti- Truths),
all meant to trick people
to disbelieve YHWH'S WORD,
to dishonor YHWH'S TRUTH,
to keep people from ever finding the kingdom of heaven.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

From 1 CORINTHIANS 1:19ff
For God says, "I will destroy all human plans of salvation no matter how wise they seem to be, and ignore the best ideas of men, even the most brilliant of them."

So what about these wise men,
these scholars,
these brilliant debaters of this world's great affairs ?
>>God has made them all look foolish, and shown their wisdom to be useless nonsense.

For God in His Wisdom saw to it that
the world would NEVER FIND GOD THROUGH HUMAN BRILLIANCE,
and then He stepped in and saved all those who believed HIS MESSAGE [CHRIST CRUCIFIED!], which the world calls foolish and silly.