The origins of atheism

[Hikarifuru]

Colton
Displaying that your position is inherently fallacious IS evidence against you.

Jesus talked about hell in the new testament too hes still cruel and unloving.

Well im done with our discussion here. Bye

 

[Colter]

Colton
Displaying that your position is inherently fallacious IS evidence against you.

Jesus talked about hell in the new testament too hes still cruel and unloving.

Well im done with our discussion here. Bye

I don't think Jesus was always accurately remembered, in fact the gospels were written well into Pauls' interpretive influence.

To be specific, I don't credit the parable of Lazarus to Jesus or the 10 virgins. But you do have a fair point, it is there.

I will assume you don't believe in hell? Neither do I, but how could that be, neither science or religion has proven or disproven it?

Have a nice day.

 

[Davian]

In your "dream." Look it up: Link

Your point?

 

[AV1611VET]

I was a preacher and a bible college student.

Were you saved then?

Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Hebrews 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

If so, then why did you give up all this:

1. once enlightened
2. tasted of the heavenly gift
3. made partaker of the Holy Ghost
4. tasted the good word of God
5. tasted the powers of the world to come

... to embrace atheism?

 

[Davian]

The conceit of the average Atheist is built upon a common argument that because the spiritualist cannot prove his consciousness of spiritual realities then those do not exist. Its a form of a cop out, because you cannot explain how you know that we do not know.

I would offer the continuing inability of religionists such as yourself to demonstrate the veracity of their religious claims, such as the existence of their respective "God/god/gods".

Absence of evidence *is* evidence of absence, where evidence is expected.

 

[Davian]

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If someone lost their faith how can I trust him as a theologian?
...

How circular.

Can they only be a theologian if they believe in the same god as you?

 

[AV1611VET]

No flying saucers, transport personalities. And they have now been identified.

The Midwayers?

 

[ScottA]

Accepting things for what they are is recommended.

Hey...we agree! See you when the dream ends and reality begins.

 

[Davian]

Science hasn't disproven God.

I claim your Atheism is inherently fallacious because you cannot disprove God.

Have you defined "God" in a testable, falsifiable manner?

 

[Davian]

I have the evidence of my own experience with God, you have no evidence of a godless universe so your hypocrisy is noted.

Asking someone to prove a negative is something I consider to be intellectually bankrupt.

 

[Hikarifuru]

Were you saved then?

Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Hebrews 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

If so, then why did you give up all this:

1. once enlightened
2. tasted of the heavenly gift
3. made partaker of the Holy Ghost
4. tasted the good word of God
5. tasted the powers of the world to come

... to embrace atheism?

I thought I was and said I was but no I wasn't saved because salvation, sin, god, hell... none of that was true. Yes Paul was right when he said people who go through what he described as those 5 things probably cannot be brought back to god.... because those people know there is nothing left to go back to.

But no progress is being made here, I'm out.

 

[Wryetui]

I read it a lot actually, I was a preacher and a bible college student.

I don't need to be a theologian to discuss the nature of what these theologians say, especially when they resort to very common fallacies and nonsensical ideas like virgins having kids and donkeys talking to people and good gods sending rapists to rape women and burning humans alive.

You obviously have no idea about what you are talking about and you are only showing your ignorance here, so understand me when I say people like you have no idea about theology and are no one to learn about them.

 

[ecco]

No flying saucers, transport personalities. And they have now been identified.

Previously Unidentified "Transport personalities" AKA Cabs AKA Vehicles > UFOs.
These have now been identified > IFOs.

Got it! Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[AV1611VET]

I thought I was and said I was but no I wasn't saved ...

I'll say this much:

Your straightforward answers are refreshing.

 

[Hikarifuru]

You obviously have no idea about what you are talking about and you are only showing your ignorance here, so understand me when I say people like you have no idea about theology and are no one to learn about them.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about anyway... no discussing left to be had here.

 

[Hikarifuru]

I'll say this much:

Your straightforward answers are refreshing.

I don't like people playing games when it comes to discussion, either you're right or wrong or you know or you don't know. If someone proves me wrong I'll put on my big boy pants and admit it I was wrong and consider it a good thing. It's so annoying when people can't just be plain and upfront.

 

[Wryetui]

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about anyway... no discussing left to be had here.

I do, I am studying Orthodox Christian Pastoral theology at college in order to become a priest, that is why you are no one to teach me about christianity and that is why I am not saying you have no idea what you are talking about in order to insult you but to open your eyes to the possibility of being wrong.

 

[Colter]

The Midwayers?

Midwayers are the permanent residents of the evolutionary worlds. They are a unique order of beings just outside of our range of vision. In fact a number of them were lost to the Lucifer rebellion here on earth. They were the origin of so called "demons." As such they were just little trouble making critters mainly able to mess with mentally unstable people.

 

[Hikarifuru]

I do, I am studying Orthodox Christian Pastoral theology at college in order to become a priest, that is why you are no one to teach me about christianity and that is why I am not saying you have no idea what you are talking about in order to insult you but to open your eyes to the possibility of being wrong.

I don't give a womp rat's behind what you're doing in college... I went to a bible college too and I spent most of my life obsessing over that book too and a very large portion of atheists come out of Christianity and statisticly speaking atheists know more about religions in general than any religious group except the mormons.

You probably do know somethings I didn't study and that I have forgot but that in no way provides that I do not have a decent handle on Christianity in general and I do especially when I can quote plenty of scriptures to back up my claims and I can definitely back up the ones I made to you before.

I am not wrong about Christianity, you merely have a different position on the same scriptures and themes.

 

[HitchSlap]

Hey...we agree! See you when the dream ends and reality begins.

Reality exists.
We can know some things about reality.
Falsifiable models with predictive capabilities are better than those without.