The Major Discrepancy Between Ezekiel and Johns New Jerusalem.

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He shall reign for ever and ever is a phrase from the days of the OT. It does not mean yet that all kingdoms of the world have been taken down. When John goes to heaven, what does he see around the throne?
24 seats
and sitting on them -24 elders wearing crowns
How long do you think they will help be rulers of the kingdoms on the earth?
What kind of elders are noted at the start of Rev. 11?

Those Rev.19:1-9 verses are for after Christ's coming, they are not about a rapture; all one need do is simply read it as written:

Rev 19:2-3
2 For true and righteous are His judgments: for He hath judged the great harlot, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of His servants at her hand.

3 And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.
KJV

 

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You want just one cup of wrath to matter. The wickeds will not be saying -peace even after the first vial full is poured out. None of the vials happen before the rapture of the church. None of the vials full occur during the great tribulation. The end of Rev. 8 shows three woes -due to -the trumpets yet to sound_____not vials yet then being poured.

Jesus still warning His Church on the 6th Vial that He comes "as a thief" is very plain that His coming to gather His Church is not until the 7th Vial. It's the same final sign He gave in His Olivet Discourse. He only returns ONCE, and it is to gather His Church to end the tribulation and begin His Millennial reign with His elect.

 

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That was a warning to those for 70 AD.

For that to be true, then it would have to mean Jesus' 2nd coming happened in 70 A.D. It did not. It's because when the Jews say that with wanting for the mountains to fall upon them, and the hills to hide them, it's on the day of Jesus' 2nd coming.

Why do you distort God's Holy Writ just to keep a doctrine of men?

 

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Actually, God called me to teach Scripture.

I don't say such things about myself, even though others do. Let God do the choosing.

 

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It means the mystery of God is over. It does not mean that all prophecy is over at the 7th trumpet. John had to make the mystery of God section in Revelation. He had to jumble the visions around as they were not for his day. He also ate a little open book - that did not contain the sealed seven thunders utterings - or it would not be open - this was to tell more prophecy. This is why we have chapters 16-22 that contained saying of a book that was not to be sealed.
seal not the sayings of the prophecy -this book

Well, yes it does mean all that is written in the OT prophets FOR THIS PRESENT WORLD will be over at that point. Makes sense too when one simply reads about all the kingdoms of this world becoming those of The Father and His Christ on the 7th Trumpet of Rev.11.

 

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You do not buy and sell the Holy Spirit. It is regular oil that lights lamps. Go to those that sell -buy .
they took their lamps - they are not the lamps
they slumber - the lamps do not slumber
Matthew 24:35 sets the timing for clear to the end of Matthew 25 - the end of the world/heaven and earth shall pass away ---that day

No, one does not buy The Holy Spirit, which is an idea you should have caught when the five wise virgins told the foolish ones to go to market and buy. That idea represents their following false ones, like the "hireling" Jesus warned us about in John 10 that preaches for money, and when the wolves come in they run and leave the sheep to the wolves.

I didn't say they were the lamps. But their lamps do represent them as a symbol of the light which Jesus said to have burning til His coming (Luke 12:35).

 

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blessed and holy - resurrection
the rest of the dead lived not till the 1000 years-finished
then Satan is loosed
more wickeds die - and finally the resurrection to damnation

Since there's no flesh death after Christ's return, but only the "second death", and in The Gospel Jesus showed that those men who reject Him are like whited tombs with dead bones inside, the idea of the "dead" in Rev.20:5 is about the spiritually dead souls, like the "resurrection of damnation" that will exist throughout Christ's thousand years reign.

 

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Luke 23:28 Commentaries: But Jesus turning to them said, "Daughters of Jerusalem, stop weeping for Me, but weep for yourselves and for your children.

The 6th seal is when wicked men hide - not Jews per se.
They will be in the time of Isaiah 2:10-12.

No sense in trying to hide what Jesus said to the daughters of Jerusalem who wept for Him, and also to their... Jewish children, which is about the future event of His return to Jerusalem:

Luke 23:28-30
28 But Jesus turning unto them said, "Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.

29 For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, 'Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck.'

30 Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, 'Fall on us'; and to the hills, 'Cover us.'
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That's Jews, in Jerusalem, that's who those "daughters of Jerusalem" represent.

Can it include anyone... that is deceived in the future by the coming pseudo-messiah? Yes, and no doubt there will be even some Christian Churches that will think that coming false one is Jesus Christ (The True Messiah). That was one of our Lord Jesus' specific warnings for the end, to beware of one they claim is Christ (Matt.24:23-26).

That idea of wanting the mountains to "Fall on us", and the hills, "Cover us", is about shame when Jesus appears and they know what they had done. This is why Jesus in Rev.16:15 on the 6th Vial warned His Church that He comes "as a thief", and to keep their garments lest they appear spiritually naked and in shame when He comes.

 

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