The Law

[Frogster]

If you do not obey the Ten Commandment Covenant, you are lawless.

Commandment in the bible does not always mean "the 10".

He gave a new command...just love.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Nope. The law written in stone has passed away. Nailed to the cross. The ministry of the Spirit is much more glorious.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7463574-11/#post54613209
Sinai and Zion

 

[angelmom01]

Nope. The law written in stone has passed away. Nailed to the cross. The ministry of the Spirit is much more glorious.

 

[Yarddog]

If you do not obey the Ten Commandment Covenant, you are lawless.

Yes, we are Law less.
Romans 3:

19 Now we know that what the law says is addressed to those under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world stand accountable to God,
20 since no human being will be justified in his sight by observing the law; for through the law comes consciousness of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, though testified to by the law and the prophets,
22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction;
23 all have sinned and are deprived of the glory of God.
24 They are justified freely by his grace through the redemption in Christ Jesus,
25 whom God set forth as an expiation, through faith, by his blood, to prove his righteousness because of the forgiveness of sins previously committed,
26 through the forbearance of God--to prove his righteousness in the present time, that he might be righteous and justify the one who has faith in Jesus.
27 What occasion is there then for boasting? It is ruled out. On what principle, that of works? No, rather on the principle of faith.

28 For we consider that a person is justified by faith apart from works of the law.

Romans 4:

5 But when one does not work, yet believes in the one who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness.
6 So also David declares the blessedness of the person to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:
7 "Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord does not record."

 

[Fireinfolding]

Young) John 13:34 `A new commandment I give to you, that ye love one another; according as I did love you, that ye also love one another;

Young) 1 John 2:7 Brethren, a new command I write not to you, but an old command, that ye had from the beginning--the old command is the word that ye heard from the beginning;
8 again, a new command I write to you, which thing is true in him and in you, because the darkness doth pass away, and the true light doth now shine;

Young) 2 John 1:5 and now I beseech thee, Kyria, not as writing to thee a new command, but which we had from the beginning, that we may love one another,

Reve 14:12 Here the endurance of the Saints is, here the ones keeping the Commandments of the God and the Faith of Jesus.

I like this, you have heard this FROM "THE BEGINNING" right?

John 1:9 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Rev 22:13 I am...the beginning ...

1John 2:7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning

1John 3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

He's speaking of Christ (Who IS the beginning) YE have HEARD (this message) FROM "THE BEGINNING"= Christ = Love one another.

See how he hides things? So kool

 

[Yab Yum]

Born again is a work of God. A free gift. A gift of grace. Nothing that we do by ourselves can regenerate our hearts. Jesus died for us while we are still sinners. The law does not save. Never has and never will.

Keeping God's commandments comes naturally from saving faith just like I do good works for my wife because I love her not because I have to. If one has to keep the law for salvation then Jesus died in vain and we are still lost.

And if you didn't do such good works, you wouldn't have love, and so wouldn't be saved.

 

[Hentenza]

And if you didn't do such good works, you wouldn't have love, and so wouldn't be saved.

Salvation is always by faith while judgment is always by works. Salvation =/= judgment. The judgment of the believer is depicted in 1 Cor. 3:9-15.

 

[Fireinfolding]

And if you didn't do such good works, you wouldn't have love, and so wouldn't be saved.

I know alot of folks which speak of doing good (which is very profitable for "others") but speak of it as having charity (of themselves) but here appears to contradict that.

1Cr 13:3 And though I bestow (((all )))) my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

So one can do these things (even give ALL ones goods to the poor) and have not Charity (in the "doing of it") Paul says profits "ME" nothing (though I can see the profit OTHERS can receive from it).

 

[Fireinfolding]

Salvation is always by faith while judgment is always by works. Salvation =/= judgment. The judgment of the believer is depicted in 1 Cor. 3:9-15.

Amen critter!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

And if you didn't do such good works, you wouldn't have love, and so wouldn't be saved.

Jesus and Paul fought the Law with Love and the Law won....[so the Law thought]

John 19:15 Those yet Cry-out "take-away! take-away! crucify! Him". Is saying to them the Pilate "the King of ye I shall be crucifying?".
Answered the Chief-priests "not we are having a King except Caesar
Reve 12:10]

Acts 25:11 For if I be an offender, or have committed any thing worthy of death, I refuse not to die.
But if there be none of these things whereof these accuse me, no man may deliver me unto them.
I appeal unto Caesar!.
[Reve 12:10]

YouTube - Bobby Fuller I fought the law

 

[Sherha]

What say the Scriptures? If you do not keep the Ten Commandment Covenant, you will burn in the lake of fire at the Judgment.

 

[Frogster]

And if you didn't do such good works, you wouldn't have love, and so wouldn't be saved.

fusion gives me a contusion

 

[Yarddog]

What say the Scriptures? If you do not keep the Ten Commandment Covenant, you will burn in the lake of fire at the Judgment.

Give us the scripture which designates this.

 

[Frogster]

I posted this on the other law thread,,I dont remember which one talked about the feasts,because the threads seem like a blurr now..


Me persoanally..I will opt for a good ole fashioned Italian feast anytime!

Great levitically unclean food!

Shrimp scampli,calamari,lobster fra-diavlo,spaghetti with white clam sauce....

And of course,a good meat sauce with pork sausages in it.

 

[JamesAH]

What say the Scriptures? If you do not keep the Ten Commandment Covenant, you will burn in the lake of fire at the Judgment.

You sound like a broken record

 

[Hentenza]

What say the Scriptures? If you do not keep the Ten Commandment Covenant, you will burn in the lake of fire at the Judgment.

Not biblical. Trust in the finished work of Christ.

 

[Yarddog]

If you do not obey all Ten Commandments, you will perish in the lake of fire at the Judgment Day. The Ceremonial law was completed by Jesus' death on Calvary.

1..."Thou shalt have no other gods before Me."
2..."Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image"
3..."Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain..."
4..."Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy....thou shalt not work on the Sabbath day.
5.. "Honor thy father and mother...
6..."Thou shalt not commit murder..."
7..."Thou shalt not commit adultery."
8..."Thou shalt not steal..."
9..."Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor..."
10.."Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, nor wife, nor man servant, nor maid servant..."

If you want to know what the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge is, you started the list, are you sure that you want to eat of the fruit which Satan is offering?

Genesis 2: 16 The LORD God gave man this order: "You are free to eat from any of the trees of the garden
17 except the tree of knowledge of good and bad. From that tree you shall not eat; the moment you eat from it you are surely doomed to die."
God is offering us righteous through grace, why do you want to forsake that for knowledge?

 

[Fireinfolding]

If you want to know what the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge is, you started the list, are you sure that you want to eat of the fruit which Satan is offering?

Genesis 2: 16 The LORD God gave man this order: "You are free to eat from any of the trees of the garden
17 except the tree of knowledge of good and bad. From that tree you shall not eat; the moment you eat from it you are surely doomed to die."
God is offering us righteous through grace, why do you want to forsake that for knowledge?

Same sorta principal

Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Same sorta principal

Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

Seems like it to me

 

[visionary]

Same sorta principal

Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

Can you imagine a world where the commandment never came...no one realised it was sin... eeesh