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Featured The Lake Of Fire

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by FineLinen, Aug 9, 2019.

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  1. FineLinen

    FineLinen Senior Veteran Supporter

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    Correct!

    Fire, like Light, Love & Spirit are Father's essence. They are not characteristics of Him,

    They are Him !
     
  2. Der Alte

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    Heretical teaching.
    God created light.

    Genesis 1:3-4
    3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
    4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
     
  3. FineLinen

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    I would never attempt to kid you, Big Guy!

    The Lake of Divine incense is rooted in Theos. I assure you, Theos brings to consummation absolutely everything He begins as Author and Finisher!

    He not only purifies the all He touches, He changes & transforms the all radically.

    Welcome to the God of theioo and theion.
     
  4. FineLinen

    FineLinen Senior Veteran Supporter

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    God is the Father of all mankind.

    “Have we not all one Father?” Mal. 2:10.

    " One is your Father which is in Heaven.” Matt. 23:9.

    Is there a human parent who would torment his offspring?

    Is our heavenly Abba less kind than earthly fathers are?

    God is unchangeable.

    “He is in one mind, and who can turn him?” Job 23:13.

    Therefore He always will be what He is now: omniscient, all-knowing, omnipotent, omni-present, infinitely good, holy, merciful, just, and the universal Father.

    Our Father is not a partial Father, what He is now He will forever be!

    Why are we glad that God is Almighty?

    Because He is Almighty Goodness.

    Why are we delighted that His understanding is infinite?

    Because it is the understanding of Infinite Love.

    Why are we pleased when we hear that God is Unchangeable?

    Because it brings to our view a benevolence which will never vary.

    Why do we rejoice that He is just?

    Because we hence learn that the energy of Love will never cease to maintain and defend every thing that is right, and to oppose every thing that is wrong.

    God is the Owner and Proprietor of all men.

    “Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine.” Ezek. 18:4.

    God is too wise and good to give any to the devil, and He has too much power to have any forced out of His hands.

    As all men now belong to God they always will.
     
  5. Major1

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    How sad for you to place all your apples in such a basket.
     
  6. Major1

    Major1 Well-Known Member

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    Actually what you are saying is heresy.
     
  7. FineLinen

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    I trust the God of Glory will make me worthy to stand with others of equal persuasion!

    "But this I confess to you--that in the way which they style a heresy, I worship the God of our forefathers, believing everything that is taught in the Law or is written in the Prophets."

    I repeat:

    Fire, like Light, Love & Spirit are Father's essence. They are not characteristics of Him >>>>>>

    They are Him !
     
  8. Saint Steven

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    Why do you feel it is necessary to CORRECT someone's personal opinion?
    As if there is a right and wrong to a personal opinion.
    What part of personal don't you understand?
     
  9. Saint Steven

    Saint Steven You can call me Steve Supporter

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    Well... he's in fine company then. - lol
     
  10. Der Alte

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    And all those rebellious, unrighteous etc. sinners will be filled with love and warm fuzzies for God who cast them into a lake of fire for some period; seconds, minutes, days, weeks, months, years just like they are in this world after they have been in prison.
     
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  11. bbbbbbb

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    Anyone who thinks that can contact me. I have some really fantastic property in Florida for sale.
     
  12. FineLinen

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    [​IMG]
     
  13. Jord Simcha

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    I have a question. Love might not be the first thing they'll feel for God, you are right, but will they feel fear?

    If so, does the Word of God still apply?

    "The fear of the LORD leads to life" Proverbs 19:23
     
  14. bbbbbbb

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    Well, we also have this: I John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love.

    As they say, a verse out of context is a pretext for error.
     
  15. FineLinen

    FineLinen Senior Veteran Supporter

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    The Basket of Father is excessively abundantly beyond limits. It is not filled with apples, only the fruits of His amazing grace!

    Are you aware yet, Big Guy, the steadfast love of the Lord has NOT a time factor imbedded into it?
     
  16. FineLinen

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    The Father most glorious has a purpose for punishment: it is NOT mindless suffering, but leads to change & transformation by those exercised thereby!

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Major1

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    Yes it does my friend. It is called DEATH.

    The door of death ends ALL chances of salvation.

    While the idea of a second chance for salvation is appealing, the Bible is clear that death is the end of all chances.

    Hebrews 9:27 ...... tells us that we die, and then face judgment.

    So, as long as a person is alive, he has a second, third, fourth, fifth, etc. chance to accept Christ and be saved. Once a person dies, there are no more chances. The idea of purgatory, a place where people go after death to pay for their sins, or what you believe is Universal salvation has no biblical basis.
     
  18. Major1

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    What about those who do not believe? Wouldn’t they repent and believe if they were given a second chance?

    The answer is no, they would not because their hearts are not changed simply because they die. Their hearts and minds “are at enmity” against God and won’t accept Him even when they see Him face to face. This is evidenced clearly in the story of the rich man and Lazarus in Luke 16:19-31.

    If ever someone should have repented when given a second chance to see clearly the truth, it was the rich man. But although he was in torment in hell, he only asked that Abraham send Lazarus back to earth to warn his brothers so they didn’t have to suffer the same fate. There was no repentance in his heart, only regret for where he found himself.

    Abraham’s answer says it all in Luke 16:31....
    “And he said to him, If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded, even though one rose from the dead”.

    Here we see that the witness of the Scriptures is sufficient for salvation for those who believe it, and no other revelation will bring about salvation to those who do not. No second, third, or fourth chances would be enough to turn the heart of stone into a heart of flesh.
     
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    Philippians 2:10-11 declares ......
    “that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”

    One day, everyone will bow before Jesus and recognize that He is the Lord and Savior. At that point, though, it will be too late for salvation. After death, all that remains for the unbeliever is judgment (Rev. 20:14-15). That is why we must trust in Him in this life.
     
  20. Major1

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    That is a personal opinion, exactly like your theology.
     
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