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On point and thank you for noting that - the way Saladin interacted with Christians and vice-versa is something I am always amazed at how often it's minimized.Sadly, there is still too much antisemitism in Germany. It has receded to fringe parties, fraternities and drinking groups of old men.
It isn't acceptable anymore, but it was not destroyed, neither by war or peace.
And Saladin was a liberator, not a conqueror. He was even respected as chivalrous by his contemporary christian adversaries.
Maybe you should really follow the example of Richard the Lionheart towards Saladin and send the muslims gifts.
There was another thread elsewhere that sought to discuss the issue as it concerns the ways Christians/Muslims had extensive times of peace/working together---with militant action often being the cause of social unrest on both sides, if going to the thread entitled Syria: Orthodox Christians Wary of Their Future in Post-Assad Regime
I'm reminded of the film "Kingdom of Heaven" when it comes to seeing the interactions between groups.
A Valuable Lesson
I put no stock in religion - Kingdom of Heaven
History wise, the ways that Christians interacted with others hasn't always been the best...and it's no surprise that times got tough
The Third Crusade: Saladin & Richard the Lionheart Documentary
On a side note, it's interesting to consider the dynamics behind how many are often so afraid of anything done by Islam and yet they don't see where things are complicated in more ways than what others realize. Many have often noted that an even greater threat than anything else is Transhumanism (more here and here) and Secular Humanism, with the former on the rise and growing in control of much in the world---from human genetic enhancements/claiming to improve the human condition and doing a lot of messing with things/trying to get patents on biological elements (be it with Monsanto in its work with food or others working with gene therapy/finding ways to alter humanity in its evolution, regulation on human repopulation, eugenic population control, etc).
All of those things being promoted by us in the U.S. - with countries around the world paying the price for it. In many ways, we're moving towards an alternative humanity: transhuman existence. This is based more on the technological than the biological. Scientific advances are enabling what once was purely science-fiction to become reality (take cybernetic limbs for example). We are spending increasingly more time interacting with computers than directly with other humans. How then will our ethics and laws alter to cope with these kinds of changes, and what impact will it have on our humanity? Many have been discussing the ways that a lot of the people working with trying to get patents on human genes are Transhumanist on differing levels......and that's one reason why it's so scarey.
Militant Atheism is what often tends to come about from those venues....as well as social darwinism amongst other things (similar to the Eugenics programs hailed by Hitler in the Holocaust, alongside Margret Sanger in her plans for minorities in America with the Negro Project which evolved into Planned Parenthood today)..and of course, the ways that Stalinism arose once Germany was defeated)....although I will say it's interesting seeing the ways that Hitler himself interacted with people from Radical Islam (a real threat)---for he worked with others who were leaders in radical Islam such as the Grand Mufti ( the highest official of religious law in a Sunni or Ibadi Muslim country), Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin el-Husseini (more shared here, here, here and here )---more shared at Haj Amin Al-Husseini - Nazi collaborator and model for today's Islamists - Militant Islam Monitor andHitler's Mufti | Catholic Answers. There was a good documentary one of the messianic leaders of my fellowship showed me when we did a study on Islam/the dangers to be aware of.....and it was interesting seeing the hate that hate produces:
Granted, other Grand Muftis of today have denounced violence on multiple fronts (more here, here, here and here )--although it is still a serious issue to see others proclaimign violence. Palestinian Grand Mufti shocked Israel when it came to Fatah’s Muhammad Hussein urging killing Jews...(more here , here and here /here)..and sadly, many assume that anti-semitism agaisnt the Jewish people by radical Muslims is an indicator that all Arabs are the same way---and that is an error that has grave consequences when it comes to ignoring the many Arabs (be it Arab Christians or non-believing Arabs ) who've NEVER supported things done by the Grand Mufti during the time of Hitler.
I grieve for the many ways Arabs who've been working with Jews/having solid relationship and interaction are harmed whenever it comes to extremists doing things in the names of Arabs---and it sadly muddies things up, especially as it concerns the ways many Jews have been actively fighting on behalf of peace/reconcilliation for Jews and Arabs collectively
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