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If human life started at conception, and in the Gospel record that Elizabeth's unborn baby leapt for joy in her womb when Mary visited her, what would you call abortion then other than the taking of conscious life, which would experience intense pain while dying in the womb as the result of the abortion?
1: Murder is a legal term referring to the unlawful taking of a human life.
You do not know how old the child Elizabeth was carrying is but I will guarantee you it wasn't at the egg stage.
You know very well that we are not talking about the egg stage. We are talking about babies being aborted after they have been formed, and sometimes these ones have been born alive and thrown into a bin and left to die, or the doctor has deliberately smothered the child at birth. You cannot tell me that you can reconcile that sort of callous killing with a genuine Christian faith.
I think that the original Hebrew is more correctly translated as "murder", otherwise, the Jews under Joshua, Gideon, Saul and David would have been condemned under the Law.
You can see why its confusing though surely and why some, like myself, really see God more in terms of a creator/destroyer because thats certainly how he is portrayed in the OT
This is the corruption that modernist theology has brought even into the evangelical church. Modernist theology devalues man to something less than being created in the image of God. What God told Moses to write in the Law was that it was because man is made in the image of God and therefore unique among all the rest of creation, that He sets such a high value on man (male and female) that taking a human life is one of the absolute biggies in His mind, and therefore He was, and still is, very strict and unbending about His judgment concerning the deliberate taking of another human life. When war is mentioned, there are many who conscientiously object on this basis. I would if I were younger and faced with having to go to war and take human life. I couldn't do it. Yet, it was allowed at different stages in the Old Testament, and this is explained in the Scriptural text.
Which is why I grapple with those verses where there are unambiguous divine instructions to wipe out the Canaanites. Killing every man woman child and infant - some of those women commanded to be murdered were pregnant. Of course, there are numerous other examples. How can you say what you just wrote - and then think blissfully on the commissioning of murder in the bible. You seem to be totally comfortable with your position reconciled by murderous verses - I'm not so comfortable.
Have you read the accounts carefully? Why didn't Abraham, Isaac and Jacob occupy the land at the time when they were promised it? Why did it take so long. I know the answer to that because I read it in the Scripture. How come Rahab and the Gibeonites were saved when others were eliminated? And how come Rahab, a prostitute from Jericho, became an ancestor or Jesus, along with Ruth, another foreign Moabite woman?
So, what do you reckon? Put them up against a wall, tell them that you are bringing their abortion up to date, and shoot them?
I plan to set up the paperwork, and hand them out, one each, to each registered Pro-life supporter. Then move on to any unregistered ones I find in forums. You gotta stand up for what you claim to believe.
2 of 3 zygotes do not make it. My nephew was strangled in the womb.
No, skywriting recommends abortions. He thinks it’s better to kill the unborn than have them born into what he thinks might be a difficult life.
When you think about it, according to society, Jesus was born to an unmarried mother, therefore he was expected to have a difficult life. I guess that according to our friend, if Jesus had been conceived in our Western society, he could have been aborted. Just think. If that had happened, we would have no gospel, no church, and salvation. I wonder how many potentionally powerful men and women of God were aborted in the womb instead of being given the chance to receive Christ, go on for God and have powerful ministries? Wouldn't it be a very rude shock for a parent to be told by God in the Judgment that His plan for their unborn child was to be a great Holy Ghost evangelist winning thousands to Christ, but His plan was destroyed through their selfishness in not wanting the child?
Most abortions occur before the zef is anything more than some cells. This kind of post is simply nonsense.
