JohnR7 said:They are not my points, they are his.
Then why did you bring Hovind up in the first place?
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JohnR7 said:They are not my points, they are his.
Who, me? Since when do I explain the flood in naturalistic terms? I like to think I explain the flood in Biblical terms first, and then natural terms.BeamMeUpScotty said:If you believe in miracles, that's fine and your right. But if you do, why do you keep trying to explain the flood in naturalistic terms? Naturedidit?
You must have me confused with someone else.BeamMeUpScotty said:Again, if you believe God accomplished the flood story with miracles, why do you try to explain it in natural terms (i.e., without God)?
This is not a science forum --- it is a Christian forum. You "scientists" are the visitors here. We just put up with you guys because you have a modicum of entertainment value.fromdownunder said:Panderson, that's fine by me, and if you wish to say it in an apologetic forum, I will not argue at all.
But when people say there was a world wide flood, and bring such arguments to the table in a science forum, that is when (and the only time) I will ask for evidence.
In theology/mataphysics/apologetics forum "God did it" is enough for me to bow out. It cannot be falsified. In a science forum, I am afraid it is not.
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Well, back to my OP, care to account for the heat issue and why God never mentioned solving any of those problems in the Bible? And why he would go to such lengths to exterminate a bunch of animals?AV1611VET said:Who, me? Since when do I explain the flood in naturalistic terms? I like to think I explain the flood in Biblical terms first, and then natural terms.
No, this is the debate forum. The Christian only forums are a bit higher. This is the discussion of Creation vs. Evolution - a scientific forum. And many Christians here are scientists. Stop with your inane generalizing about scientists all being evil atheists.AV1611VET said:This is not a science forum --- it is a Christian forum. You "scientists" are the visitors here.
AV1611VET said:Who, me? Since when do I explain the flood in naturalistic terms? I like to think I explain the flood in Biblical terms first, and then natural terms.
If you guys dismiss outright Jesus walking on water, don't expect us to discuss buoyancy laws, specific gravity, etc.
America was founded by Pilgrims who launched from the Netherlands.Pete Harcoff said:'s funny, I was always under impression that America was founded by British colonists who wanted out from under the thumb of the British monarchy at the time (that whole taxation thing).
Ya --- we gotta correct other peoples' errors all the time.I guess they teach different history lessons where you come from, huh?
Because God and Science do not (repeat: do not) conflict. Science obyes God.Then why do creationists keep paying lip service to the notion that creationism is somehow scientific?
Many of them are. Do you live in your own little world where everyone is an atheist or a christian?JohnR7 said:What is this, the law of convenience? So science is not made up of atheists, they are all God Fearing Christians?
Self Improvement said:Many of them are.
Most every one we know is a christian. We mostly associate with the filipino american association and the vast majority of filipino's are christian. In fact it is considered one of the few christian nations in Asia.Do you live in your own little world where everyone is an atheist or a christian?
No --- that's your burden.Jase said:Well, back to my OP, care to account for the heat issue...
That's real cute. Like God owes us an explanation for anything....and why God never mentioned solving any of those problems in the Bible?
Those animals died due to the universal effect of sin. Something scientists conveniently don't talk about.And why he would go to such lengths to exterminate a bunch of animals?
No --- this is not the debate forum, either. Neither is it the Creation vs. Evolution scientific forum.Jase said:No, this is the debate forum. The Christian only forums are a bit higher. This is the discussion of Creation vs. Evolution - a scientific forum. And many Christians here are scientists. Stop with your inane generalizing about scientists all being evil atheists.
JohnR7 said:Because they asked a question, so I gave his answer to the question.
Once again, Science and God do not conflict.BeamMeUpScotty said:So why do you even bring up these scientific terms if you believe a miracle took place? True though, you don't discuss them.
AV1611VET said:Once again, Science and God do not conflict.
Have you read my interpretation of 2 Peter 3:10,12?
AV1611VET said:America was founded by Pilgrims who launched from the Netherlands.
AV1611VET said:Assuming, of course, you meant the dinosaurs. A lot of them probably died out in what scientists like to call the "Ice Age".