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The Flat Earth Bible

Discussion in 'Non-Mainstream and Controversial Science' started by AV1611VET, Apr 9, 2021.

  1. FreeinChrist

    FreeinChrist CF Advisory team Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    This thread has been moved from Creation & Evolution to Non-Mainstream & Controversial Science.

    Flat earth threads can also go into Conspiracy theories.
     
  2. d taylor

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    Why would it matter, if God stated out right in a verse or verses that He created a stationary and flat earth. People would not believe it, they are going to believe what they want.

    And in this age (god of this world) science trumps the Bible

    I mean already, there is a whole book of the Bible (Gospel of John), "the only book whose states its purpose for being written". And that it is written for the exact reason, to tell people how to have eternal life.

    But yet this book is ignored by 90 to 99% of christianity, but instead seek out God's free gift of Eternal Life, by actions they try to do, to add to their idea of faith. By preforming acts of repentance, obedience, baptism, making Christ Lord of their life, etc....

    So verses like John 3:15, 16, 17, 18 or 36, John 5:24, 39,40, John 6:47 who state out right how to receive Eternal Life.

    These verse are not believed as stated, so a verse stating God created a flat earth would be ignored just like the Gospel of John is ignored.

    There are already enough verses stated in the Bible (with out having to state out right the earth is flat) to know that God's creation is nothing even remotely close to any description given by science.

    I mean in this verse, a clearly stated act of creation of God is completely dismissed. Not because of anything the Bible states but solely because of science.

    Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also.

    So i people can not believe this verse and its clear description of an act of God's creation. Why would they believe a verse stating as clear as Genesis 1:16 that God created two great lights. Why would they believe a verse stating God created a flat and stationary earth.

    God and eventually Jesus preformed miracles right before people, proving who He is, etc.. but yet many did not or do not believe.

    (from part of a post on Got Questions)
    They were “adulterous” in the spiritual sense, having left the true worship of God to follow a man-made set of rules and traditions. Not satisfied with the miracles Jesus was doing, they demanded something even greater. As commentator Matthew Barnes puts it, “They looked for signs of their own devising.” So entrenched was their rejection of Christ that, when later presented with the “sign of the prophet Jonah” (Christ’s resurrection, Matthew 12:39-40), they still would not believe.


    So christianity has left God's true description of His creation, He has given in The Bible. They have adopted and have forced the Bible to conform and agree with science's created lie.

    But that can be seen it was not only of mans doing but being that this deception has been carried out over hundreds of years. It has its source from satan and has been brought about little by little.

    To make way for evolution satan needed a creation that evolution could exist in and a flat and stationary earth with a sun, moon and stars moving above, a few thousand miles up in Gods creation would not do.

    Because as science states they need millions, billions and trillions of miles and years for evolution to exist. And a globe water ball spinning out in unlimited space gives satan his creation of his deception.
     
  3. d taylor

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    The New Jerusalem really fits well on a globe earth.

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  5. mmksparbud

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    Yah, right---the New Jerusalem is about as big as the state of Colorado, and it's corners are not on the earth either. There are other states also---their corners don't sit flat either---keep tripping over them all the time.
     
  6. d taylor

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    Where do you arrive at your 300 mile measurement for the New Jerusalem
     
  7. mmksparbud

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    Where did I say anything about 300 miles? The city is actually 12,000 furlong, square---which is about
    1500 miles square.
     
  8. d taylor

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    Right here: Yah, right---the New Jerusalem is about as big as the state of Colorado (post#105)


    Colorado from east to west is about 300 miles and that is the longer side, north to south is about 250 miles.
     
  9. d taylor

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    Revelation 20:9 They went up on the breadth (4114. platos) of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them.

    4114. platos
    Strong's Concordance
    platos: breadth
    Original Word: πλάτος, ους, τό
    Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
    Transliteration: platos
    Phonetic Spelling: (plat'-os)
    Definition: breadth
    Usage: breadth.
    NAS Exhaustive Concordance
    Word Origin
    from platus
    Definition
    breadth
    NASB Translation
    breadth (1), broad plain (1), width (2).
     
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  10. d taylor

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    Job 38:18 Have you comprehended the breadth of the earth? Tell Me, if you know all this.

    Anyone what to post a verse where there is used when speaking of the earth, measurements that would be used for a sphere (diameter, circumference, radius )
     
  11. d taylor

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    Isaiah 40:22
    It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
    And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
    Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
    And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

    Sphere in Maths (Sphere shape, Properties, Surface Area & Volume)
    What are the 3 dimensions of a sphere?
    It is three dimensional solid, that has surface area and volume. Just like a circle, each point of the sphere is at a equal distance from the center. Unlike a circle, which is a plane shape or flat shape, defined in XY plane, a sphere is defined in three dimensions, i.e. x-axis, y-axis and z-axis.
     
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  12. mmksparbud

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    Just picked a state that was fairly square was all. Ever looked at the moon? Ever looked at any other planet? Looked through a telescope at them? What shape are they? You have the right to believe whatever you want---as do I. It's pretty clear to me it is round, not flat, but you can believe it's flat if you want.
     
  13. AV1611VET

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    So true.
     
  14. mmksparbud

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    Even if He had, there would be those that refuse to believe it. He nowhere said it is flat, certainly no other planet is flat, that is more than obvious. If all other planets are round, why assume this one is flat? Makes no sense.
     
  15. d taylor

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    You are making a few assumptions 1. that there are planets, especially when there is no mention (in the Bible anywhere) of God creating planets.
     
  16. AV1611VET

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    They were known as "wandering stars" until science Arab phoned them to "planets."

    Jude 13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
     
  17. d taylor

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    What people call planets, do not wander. At least as this term is being used in Jude 1:13. These examples give the idea of without direction. Like the clouds carried about by the wind.

    The science called planets have a moving order, i record saturn, jupiter, etc... and they are predictable in their appearance/movement. If i record one. one night the next night it will be in the same area moving along on the same course.

    I know this idea has been adopted by christians who still hold to a belief in science. To be able to say, see the Bible mentions this etc.. so the Bible does line up with science.

    But there is never any mention of God creating planets. So i take Jude 1:13 just as it is stated that Jude is comparing ungodly men to wandering stars and not a science created planet.



    Anytime anyone wants to show a recording of saturn like in this image, moving in the sky go ahead.

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  18. d taylor

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    Explain a bottomless pit on a globe earth.
     
  19. d taylor

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    Or what is the big deal of people building a city and tower (Babel). If it just went a few feet (1000"+) into the air.

    It may actually be the tallest structure ever built, besides the New Jerusalem.
     
  20. essentialsaltes

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    OT God is jealous about all sorts of weird things.
     
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