The extreme Left really does want to abolish the police

[Quartermaine]

What does George W. Bush have to do with Neo-Nazis? Shall we discuss the Democratic Party and their relationship with slavery, Jim Crow, and the KKK?

do you read what is posted or do you just rant in hopes of misdirection?

you claimed that the very short list of the many neo-Nazis in the republican party don't count because they don't hold an actual office. former president Bush also does not hold an actual office but he is still a republican

 

[Oompa Loompa]

McVeigh was about a right wing as one can get

The point wasn't about party lines. It was to show that organization isn't necessary to be dangerous.

 

[Quartermaine]

Over the past fifteen years, employees of the Center for Strategic and International Studies contributed to the two political parties as shown below and as reported by US News:

Center for Strategic and International Studies

To Republicans 12.30% of contributions

To Democrats 83.80% of contributions

citation that the Center for Strategic and International Studies has contributed money to any political party please

 

[Quartermaine]

Their reputation isn't bad. I agree to that. However, it is not what you said, either ("They aren’t left-leaning.")

The fact is that all these foundations are left or right as their contributions indicate. The Heritage Foundation, which everyone knows to be Conservative, records contributions that are about 100% to Conervative causes, just as the ones that are Left-leaning record similar percentages but in the opposite direction.

That said, take a look at the figures for CSIS and you will have the best gauge of which way that organization leans, or if it leans at all--

To Republicans, 12.30% of contributions
To Democrats, 83.80% of contributions

citation ???

 

[Sparagmos]

Their reputation isn't bad. I agree to that. However, it is not what you said, either ("They aren’t left-leaning.")

The fact is that all these foundations are left or right as their contributions indicate. The Heritage Foundation, which everyone knows to be Conservative, records contributions that are about 100% to Conervative causes, just as the ones that are Left-leaning record similar percentages but in the opposite direction.

That said, take a look at the figures for CSIS and you will have the best gauge of which way that organization leans, or if it leans at all--

To Republicans, 12.30% of contributions
To Democrats, 83.80% of contributions

Pritzker is left wing? Koch? Ok...

 

[Sparagmos]

Nothing I stated was exaggerated. It is all documented to be true. Furthermore, in the thread titled "Portland Mayor unleashes police", you are denying that BLM, or the group of protesters you call "us" as being organized. Is that not true anymore?

BLM assassinating police? Really?

No, BLM isn’t organized. It’s a movement.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

BLM assassinating police? Really?

No, BLM isn’t organized. It’s a movement.

Yes, assassination. Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu...look them up. And as "unorganized" as the "BLM" movement is, the are responsible for billions of dollars worth of damages and the deaths of many caught in the crossfire. Going back to my point, the reason why they are not organized is because the radical left cannot handle people telling them what to do. Hence, they are spoiled children.

 

[Sparagmos]

Yes, assassination. Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu...look them up. And as "unorganized" as the "BLM" movement is, the are responsible for billions of dollars worth of damages and the deaths of many caught in the crossfire. Going back to my point, the reason why they are not organized is because the radical left cannot handle people telling them what to do. Hence, they are spoiled children.

BLM had nothing to do with the killing of those cops. The killer had a long rap sheet, had zero associations with the movement, and acted alone. That’s like blaming the Republican party for the Vegas mass murders.

 

[Quartermaine]

Yes, assassination. Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu...look them up.

The officers were shot without warning in their patrol car by Ismaaiyl Brinsley, who had made a string of anti-police postings on social media in the hours before the attack, including a claim that he was “putting wings on pigs today”, alongside a picture of a handgun. Brinsley had no affiliation with or membership with BLM organizations at any level. No history of contact, no history of interest no history of attending or even of awareness of demonstrations

 

[Oompa Loompa]

BLM had nothing to do with the killing of those cops. The killer had a long rap sheet, had zero associations with the movement, and acted alone. That’s like blaming the Republican party for the Vegas mass murders.

"Pigs in a blanket. Fry'em like bacon"!
BLMis just as responsible for those cop killings as Trump is responsible for racism in this country. Think about that.

Wait, are the extreme left dangerous terrorists or wimpy snowflakes? Which is it?

Ok... so if each individual on the “extreme left” is so resistant to being told what to do, how could they ever be organized enough to be a threat?

Ding ding ding. I think you now finally get it. You have answered your own questions. It took a while but you now understand.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

The officers were shot without warning in their patrol car by Ismaaiyl Brinsley, who had made a string of anti-police postings on social media in the hours before the attack, including a claim that he was “putting wings on pigs today”, alongside a picture of a handgun. Brinsley had no affiliation with or membership with BLM organizations at any level. No history of contact, no history of interest no history of attending or even of awareness of demonstrations

Why are you dehumanizing a Black man by bringing up his past mistakes? You and I both know that if the police officers responded quickly enough to kill Brinsley before they were killed the cops would be in prison and BLM would be parading Brinsley as a hero.

 

[Sparagmos]

Ding ding ding. I think you now finally get it. You have answered your own questions. It took a while but you now understand.

My questions were about the contradiction being presented, not because I lacked any understanding.

 

[Sparagmos]

Why are you dehumanizing a Black man by bringing up his past mistakes? You and I both know that if the police officers responded quickly enough to kill Brinsley before they were killed the cops would be in prison and BLM would be parading Brinsley as a hero.

That’s some major deflection. Just admit you used a bad example.

 

[Quartermaine]

"Pigs in a blanket. Fry'em like bacon"!
BLMis just as responsible for those cop killings as Trump is responsible for racism in this country. Think about that.

Trump just takes advantage of racism to further his own ends

And BLM had nothing to do with the deaths of those officers.

 

[Quartermaine]

Why are you dehumanizing a Black man by bringing up his past mistakes? You and I both know that if the police officers responded quickly enough to kill Brinsley before they were killed the cops would be in prison and BLM would be parading Brinsley as a hero.

one would have to be disconnected from reality or deceitful in the extreme to say that

 

[Aldebaran]

Who really cares? The Extreme left is a very tiny group. Nobody is worried about them. The extreme Right is a much larger and more dangerous group.

When people such as Kamala Harris starts talking in support of it (regardless of what new twist she tries to put on the terminology), it gets rather concerning. Especially since she'd probably become the president of the United States if her running mate wins. Reimagine The Police? Kamala Harris’s Optimistic View Of The “Defund” Debate

 

[Aldebaran]

BLM assassinating police? Really?

No, BLM isn’t organized. It’s a movement.

A "movement" with its own website: https://blacklivesmatter.com/?__cf_...Ai8SuGenHhWQuZtsn52YJA-oZ7-8CdUB3KbkTFEflvyrA

#DefundThePolice
"We call for a national defunding of police."

 

[Sparagmos]

A "movement" with its own website: https://blacklivesmatter.com/?__cf_...Ai8SuGenHhWQuZtsn52YJA-oZ7-8CdUB3KbkTFEflvyrA

#DefundThePolice
"We call for a national defunding of police."

Anyone can start a website, it doesn’t mean whomever that is speaks for everyone in the movement. Why does this matter to you anyway? Do you think BLM is secretly more organized and centralized than it looks? That all of these protesters are having secret meetings?

 

[Albion]

Anyone can start a website, it doesn’t mean whomever that is speaks for everyone in the movement. Why does this matter to you anyway? Do you think BLM is secretly more organized and centralized than it looks? That all of these protesters are having secret meetings?

There are founders, a manifesto, spokespersons, organized gatherings, protesters self-identifying as "BLM" and more that speaks of an organization, even if Biden and the Democrats want to exonerate their support group of all the damage that's been done. The same with Antifa.

Just imagine if someone were to be an unaffiliated KKK sympathizer or part of the "movement," right out there in the mob when demonstrations occur... but not a card carrying member.

Do you think for a moment that that excuse or shading of the truth would fly? No.

We already know the answer. Just look at the Charlottesville incident that Chris Wallace insisted upon inserting into last night's debate. The fact is that anyone who was in town with an interest in not having the destruction of historic monuments, was labelled in no uncertain terms by every left-wing newsman and liberal politician in the country as KKK or one of those other bully-boy groups like the Proud Boys--just the opposite of the line that we are hearing now about Black Lives Matter.

 

[Quartermaine]

There are founders, a manifesto, spokespersons, organized gatherings, protesters self-identifying as "BLM" and more that speaks of an organization, even if Biden and the Democrats want to exonerate their support group of all the damage that's been done. The same with Antifa.

Just imagine if someone were to be an unaffiliated KKK sympathizer or part of the "movement," right out there in the mob when demonstrations occur... but not a card carrying member.

Do you think for a moment that that excuse or shading of the truth would fly? No.

We already know the answer. Just look at the Charlottesville incident that Chris Wallace insisted upon inserting into last night's debate. The fact is that anyone who was in town with an interest in not having the destruction of historic monuments, was labelled in no uncertain terms by every left-wing newsman and liberal politician in the country as KKK or one of those other bully-boy groups like the Proud Boys--just the opposite of the line that we are hearing now about Black Lives Matter.

were you in town?