The Duggar Family

[Meowzltov]

WHOM should he pay retribution to?

The sisters.

 

[Root of Jesse]

lookup Michelle duggars robocall

No. Is she speaking against actions, or is she speaking against people?

 

[Root of Jesse]

The sisters.

I suppose he could babysit and clean up the yard on a regular basis. But the sisters haven't asked, have they?

 

[Root of Jesse]

Well, I think the productive thing (if you want to call it that) is that he most likely had a political career in his future and now that's not going to happen. So I think it's a good thing that the general public was told about what happened when he was a teenager.

I don't know why. I don't expect politicians to be squeeky clean, I expect them to be honest and up front. Most politicians on the national stage try to show themselves as the former, but that makes it look suspicious. At least he can say he cleaned up his act, and meant it.

 

[KimT]

None of us know what dialogue went on between Josh Dugger and his victims, both after he confessed and when they were older and more able to process the situation with an adult mind. I believe good will come out of this and that might possibly be a warning to other families that clear boundaries and education on these matters must start at a young age and be provided for by the parents. Beyond that, I believe we need to pray for everyone involved.

 

[ToBeLoved]

I don't know why. I don't expect politicians to be squeeky clean, I expect them to be honest and up front. Most politicians on the national stage try to show themselves as the former, but that makes it look suspicious. At least he can say he cleaned up his act, and meant it.

Wow. You sure know a lot about this situation. How did you come into all this insider knowledge?

 

[Root of Jesse]

Wow. You sure know a lot about this situation. How did you come into all this insider knowledge?

I try to take people at their word. Also, there are no known incidents in the last 10 years or so. Those who do those things usually will get caught again, unless they're 'cured'.

 

[ToBeLoved]

I try to take people at their word. Also, there are no known incidents in the last 10 years or so. Those who do those things usually will get caught again, unless they're 'cured'.

But there is a current DHS investigation that is going on right now.

So, what does that exactly mean?

 

[Root of Jesse]

But there is a current DHS investigation that is going on right now.

So, what does that exactly mean?

I don't know. I don't know the details. Feds do, lately, tend to stick their noses where they don't belong, no?

 

[Rhamiel]

But there is a current DHS investigation that is going on right now.

So, what does that exactly mean?

well it means that in the USA someone is innocent until proven guilty

also, we have seen federal agencies (like the IRS) target people and organizations who do not line up with the ideology of the current regime

I am not saying that I think this is that
but we do have the presumption of innocence

 

[ImaginaryDay]

But there is a current DHS investigation that is going on right now.

So, what does that exactly mean?

I don't know. I don't know the details. Feds do, lately, tend to stick their noses where they don't belong, no?

No. The Arkansas CPS doesn't act unless they have a report of child neglect. True or not, they have a duty to follow through. They CANNOT ignore a report.

well it means that in the USA someone is innocent until proven guilty

also, we have seen federal agencies (like the IRS) target people and organizations who do not line up with the ideology of the current regime.

The Arkansas CPS is not a federal agency. If anyone within the CPS did "target" a family with no foundation, they would be fired, and most likely charged.

I am not saying that I think this is that
but we do have the presumption of innocence

You're right, and I think that people need to know this. If a report is baseless, then any investigation will bear this out. But any report is required to be investigated, there is no way around it.

 

[Achilles6129]

and yet so many people interpret it exactly to suit their own nuanced theology.

Not my problem. It still says what it says.

 

[Achilles6129]

The sisters.

The sisters and all involved have already plainly stated that they've forgiven him. As far as I'm aware, from a theological point of view this is over. A legal point of view may be a different story.

 

[Achilles6129]

I don't know why. I don't expect politicians to be squeeky clean, I expect them to be honest and up front. Most politicians on the national stage try to show themselves as the former, but that makes it look suspicious. At least he can say he cleaned up his act, and meant it.

I understand, but I think there's something different between committing a generic crime and molesting a 5 year old (even if you are 14/15). I think that's going to be enough to keep him out of politics for life.

 

[znr]

Not my problem. It still says what it says.

Wow, you sure missed the point.

 

[Achilles6129]

Wow, you sure missed the point.

You're entitled to your opinion.

 

[Meowzltov]

The sisters and all involved have already plainly stated that they've forgiven him. As far as I'm aware, from a theological point of view this is over. A legal point of view may be a different story.

Sure they've forgiven him. That doesn't mean he doesn't need penance. It isn't just for the sister's benefit; it is for HIS.

 

[Achilles6129]

Sure they've forgiven him. That doesn't mean he doesn't need penance. It isn't just for the sister's benefit; it is for HIS.

Not your decision to make.

 

[Meowzltov]

Not your decision to make.

We're not talking about if it's my decision to make. We're talking about if it was right for the family and cops to protect him from any consequences and whether it is right for Christians to support the family in this miscarriage of justice.

 

[Achilles6129]

We're not talking about if it's my decision to make. We're talking about if it was right for the family and cops to protect him from any consequences and whether it is right for Christians to support the family in this miscarriage of justice.

The family internally disciplined him. I'm not saying I think that the parents handled it well, particularly the incident involving the 5 year old, but it's over now. They've all said they've forgiven him. The only question now is whether or not there will be legal charges.