I actually met them once. They seem quite humble. It's funny how people get upset when they keep stuff to themselves, and yet create a paradox because they think they'd toot their own horns...I'd bet money that if he were doing anything at all, they would be tooting their horns over it.
I'm not saying the police, the Duggars, Josh et al couldn't have done anything better. Something like what happened to your son might have been more appropriate. This is why I tend not to rely on government to do things like parenting for me. I applaud the Duggars for dealing with a parental crisis, which could have gone either way. At least Josh is clean from it, from all appearances.Yeah, I had a similar problem with my son. He stole $600 from my purse and went and bought an X-box. I took him down to the police station with the intent to press charges (He was 16). The officer helped me out by giving him a tour of the jail, and enrolling him in a police boot camp, only pretending to make an arrest report, and in general scaring the heck out of my son, who then faithfully made it through boot camp with humility.
Excellent question. I hope they do.Why aren't they investigating the police department, as many cities across the country seem wont to do???
He was a juvenile when it happened. I'm not saying he should have been treated like an adult offender. But what happened? WAS he sent to mandatory counseling? DID he have to pay retribution? DO community service? GO to boot camp? ANYTHING? Unless I have my story wrong, the family just went home from the police station and it was back to business as usual.I'm not saying the police, the Duggars, Josh et al couldn't have done anything better. Something like what happened to your son might have been more appropriate. This is why I tend not to rely on government to do things like parenting for me. I applaud the Duggars for dealing with a parental crisis, which could have gone either way. At least Josh is clean from it, from all appearances.
I don't see anyone defending Josh Duggar for what he did. I do defend the parents for how they handled the situation. I think it was appropriate. I don't think we need to rely on the nanny-state government to discipline our children. They're too confused trying to figure out whether gay marriage is appropriate.
Isn't anyone bent-out-of-shape at the harsh, judgmental, and hypocritical stance of Josh Duggar? He appears to have become an oily, slimy, lobbyist.
I have grown disillusioned with how the Bible is being interpreted and wielded as a weapon to harm groups of people. And this goes waaaaayyyyy beyond the Duggars. Ultra-wacko, conservative, right-wing, scary people are declaring their sole ownership of God, Christ, the Bible, family values...and bullying others into agreement with them!
Don't give up the label yet. There have always been Christians who have done great evil in the name of Christ; just a brief survey of church history is enough to make a believer want to throw up. But there have also always been incredible saints and acts of mercy and goodness that are so profoundly moving that they bring throngs of people to Christ. Ultimately Christians are human beings, flawed sinful creatures who are forgiven and being worked on by God; we are being perfected but we will never reach that state of perfection until after death. It should never surprise us, then, that there is sin in the churches. The church is not a museum for perfect people, it is a hospital for sinners. Sinners like me. Sinners like the Duggers. Sinners like you, too. If I could plagiarize from CS Lewis, being called a Christian is enough to bow the head of the mightiest king, and lift the head of the lowliest beggar.I have decided I will lovingly embrace being a lover and follower of the Savior, but I no longer wish to be labeled a Christian.
Isn't anyone bent-out-of-shape at the harsh, judgmental, and hypocritical stance of Josh Duggar? He appears to have become an oily, slimy, lobbyist. He represented a self-declared 'righteous Christian family defense group' of individuals who have caused me to shudder. What about Ma and Pa? The family has accused a specific group of fallen people of being the worst of the worst. I have decided I will lovingly embrace being a lover and follower of the Savior, but I no longer wish to be labeled a Christian. I have grown disillusioned with how the Bible is being interpreted and wielded as a weapon to harm groups of people. And this goes waaaaayyyyy beyond the Duggars. Ultra-wacko, conservative, right-wing, scary people are declaring their sole ownership of God, Christ, the Bible, family values...and bullying others into agreement with them!
We should not dismiss this out of some misguided perspective that this constitutes Christian persecution. It does not.
Thank you!!!!Nonsense. He deserves no slack. He was a teenager molesting a much younger and weaker innocent. He got special treatment because of who his parents were and who they knew. If he was your kid or mine, he would have been dealt with quite differently. All the while his parents are reported to be going around making hypocritical comments about child molesters. We should not dismiss this out of some misguided perspective that this constitutes Christian persecution. It does not.
Isn't anyone bent-out-of-shape at the harsh, judgmental, and hypocritical stance of Josh Duggar? He appears to have become an oily, slimy, lobbyist. He represented a self-declared 'righteous Christian family defense group' of individuals who have caused me to shudder. What about Ma and Pa? The family has accused a specific group of fallen people of being the worst of the worst. I have decided I will lovingly embrace being a lover and follower of the Savior, but I no longer wish to be labeled a Christian. I have grown disillusioned with how the Bible is being interpreted and wielded as a weapon to harm groups of people. And this goes waaaaayyyyy beyond the Duggars. Ultra-wacko, conservative, right-wing, scary people are declaring their sole ownership of God, Christ, the Bible, family values...and bullying others into agreement with them!
this is just what the victims said, it seems like it was dealt with in a responsible manner
I guess the Duggers Dug themselves a hole
Seriously though would you say this whole family is a cult or part of a cult?
Thank you for posting this. It was very helpful.this is just what the victims said, it seems like it was dealt with in a responsible manner
I think the most productive thing a Christian can do is to pray for this family and try not to judge them. God knows their hearts.....and ours.
Isn't anyone bent-out-of-shape at the harsh, judgmental, and hypocritical stance of Josh Duggar? He appears to have become an oily, slimy, lobbyist. He represented a self-declared 'righteous Christian family defense group' of individuals who have caused me to shudder. What about Ma and Pa? The family has accused a specific group of fallen people of being the worst of the worst. I have decided I will lovingly embrace being a lover and follower of the Savior, but I no longer wish to be labeled a Christian. I have grown disillusioned with how the Bible is being interpreted and wielded as a weapon to harm groups of people. And this goes waaaaayyyyy beyond the Duggars. Ultra-wacko, conservative, right-wing, scary people are declaring their sole ownership of God, Christ, the Bible, family values...and bullying others into agreement with them!
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