The 'coercive bargain' theory of Christianity.

[Tinker Grey]

It's a man-made artifact? Then how do you define yourself a "Christian"?

Because he considers himself a follower of Jesus?

 

[Lost Witness]

Because he considers himself a follower of Jesus?

Mark twain was a Christian
I live in a town were he spent a good portion of his family life
Loved his stories as a child.

 

[Astrid]

Are you describing all the different religions of the world, each one doing this ?

Nah, just the ones with books.
The rest don't have books.

 

[YahuahSaves]

Because he considers himself a follower of Jesus?

Can't be a follower of Jesus if you don't believe the word of God.

 

[YahuahSaves]

You just used man's way of thinking instead of God's in your last reply to me.
Does that mean in any way you don't think of yourself a "Christian" ?

You responded to my quote I wrote to the OP. Provide the quote you're referring to that addresses you.

 

[Tinker Grey]

Can't be a follower of Jesus if you don't believe the word of God.

Maybe. But, one needn't believe the word of God is the Bible.

 

[YahuahSaves]

Maybe. But, one needn't believe the word of God is the Bible.

Itching ears then.

 

[YahuahSaves]

What if, as is often the case, you believe the Word of God, but add man's interpretations to it ?

When have I done that?

 

[Lost Witness]

Maybe. But, one needn't believe the word of God is the Bible.

The WORD of GOD is the scriptures held within the Bibles pages?

 

[Astrid]

So then back to the question you avoided answering, can a false god write a perfect book ?

Since there's no false god and nothing
is perfect, the answer to your silly question
should be obvious.

The actual point of what I said is that
one might well assume a real God would
have directed the writing of a lot better book
than the bible.

Maybe. But, one needn't believe the word of God is the Bible.

Jesus ( is said to have ) gave some good advice.
A person could follow that.
The same principles are taught here, but to us
it is recognized as folk wisdom.

 

[Lost Witness]

What if, as is often the case, you believe the Word of God, but add man's interpretations to it ?

Sounds like universalism to me..

 

[zippy2006]

I wanted to jump off the top of mount everest without a 'chute and without gloves on.
My eskimo experienced parents kept pulling me back, saying "no" rather loud, and swatting the area that has the right cushioning for being swatted.

Such negative reinforcement to stop me from killing myself,
but I'd be glad for it if this were a true story !

I would not assume negative reinforcement is punishment.

Spanking children is punishment, and this obvious fact also holds true among Eskimos.

 

[YahuahSaves]

Sounds like universalism to me..

I'm not a universalist, as you've seen over in this thread Here

 

[Lost Witness]

Spanking children is punishment, and this obvious fact also holds true among Eskimos.

It's wise to spank a child,
Proverbs 23:13 - “Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish him with the rod, he will not die.”
Proverbs 22:15 - “Foolishness is bound in the heart of the child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far from him.”
Proverbs 13:24 - “Those who spare the rod hate their children, but those who love them are diligent to discipline them.”

 

[YahuahSaves]

Like I said, you "just posted", i.e. it was the last post of yours to me, that I know of anyways.
A few posts ago, number 102.

My answer was serious. You're messianic faith? You don't believe in the Trinity? That's what it sounded like. I didn't get revelation from man.

 

[Lost Witness]

I'm not a universalist, as you've seen over in this thread Here

never said you were a universalist

believe the Word of God, but add man's interpretations to it

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That's why i said what i said,
My apologizes for not making that clear and just quoting what he said in it's entirety.

 

[YahuahSaves]

never said you were a universalist

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's why i said what i said,
My apologizes for not making that clear and just quoting what he said in it's entirety.

He was talking about me mentioning the Holy Trinity.

 

[Lost Witness]

He was talking about me mentioning the Holy Trinity.

That's because the term holy trinity isn't in the bible?
As to where the term originates from Idk.
I myself acknowledge the Father, The Son, and the Wonderful Holy spirit while praying.
that's all i know

 

[YahuahSaves]

That's because the term holy trinity isn't in the bible?
As to where the term originates from Idk.
I myself acknowledge the Father, The Son, and the Wonderful Holy spirit while praying.
that's all i know

Trinity means 3.
Father, Son and Holy Spirit = 1 God, 3 persons.
All 3 of the Godhead are throughout scripture.

 

[Strivax]

It's a man-made artifact? Then how do you define yourself a "Christian"?

To the best of my knowledge, Christians are not required to believe everything all other Christians may believe. In fact, a certain degree of scepticism and critical thinking is required to distinguish the true from the false. Nowhere, it seems to me, is this more important than in matters of religion, where our damnation or salvation is said to depend on our decisions.

Best wishes, Strivax.