The Book of Revelation

[Douggg]

(P.S. - Sorry from mistakes! It's Google translated text from bulgarian to english.)

How did bulgaria get involved in your post?

 

[FrankDux]

You'll never know the objective truth of the book until Jesus gets here

Until then, people can post all the walls of text they want

 

[pc_home]

How did bulgaria get involved in your post?

I am from Bulgaria, but because I do not know English, translate my ideas with Google translator - to be able to share in the forum here.

 

[Riberra]

It will take place between now and the end of 2037 (1967+70).

Explain how the parable of a fig tree gives you 1967+70 ?That sounds pretty much like you are desperately attempting to set an approximate date to comfort you !

 

[Douggg]

I am from Bulgaria, but because I do not know English, translate my ideas with Google translator - to be able to share in the forum here.

Oh very good.

Yes, the translator may no accurately translate your intentions.

 

[Douggg]

Explain how the parable of a fig tree gives you 1967+70 ?That sounds pretty much like you are desperately attempting to set an approximate date to comfort you !

1967 Jerusalem came back into the hands of the Jews, so that the temple could be built again to fulfill 70th week prophecy, which the person goes into to commit the transgression of desolation. Jerusalem is the fig tree because Jesus cursed the fig tree as he was about to enter Jerusalem, knowing that Jerusalem would reject him.

70 years is a generation based on Psalms 90 and David passing away at 70 as well. 70th week - for the 1967 -70 years old , at the most.

Psalms 90:10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

 

[Riberra]

1967 Jerusalem came back into the hands of the Jews, so that the temple could be built again to fulfill 70th week prophecy, which the person goes into to commit the transgression of desolation. Jerusalem is the fig tree because Jesus cursed the fig tree as he was about to enter Jerusalem, knowing that Jerusalem would reject him.

70 years is a generation based on Psalms 90 and David passing away at 70 as well. 70th week - for the 1967 -70 years old , at the most.

Psalms 90:10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

A generation as defined by the Bible IS 40 YEARS...see Numbers 32:13

Numbers 32:13
And the LORD'S anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them wander in the wilderness FORTY YEARS, UNTIL ALL THE GENERATION, that had done evil in the sight of the LORD, WAS CONSUMED.

1967 + 40 = 2007

 

[keras]

A generation as defined by the Bible IS 40 YEARS...see Numbers 32:13

We have been over this before, and it is plain that the statement by Jesus in Matthew 24:34, means the generation alive at the time; those who see the signs indicated, THEY will see it all.

Douggg, you have never admitted that the 70 years from May 1948 is not yet completed. I see a very strong possibility of the Day of the Lord happening at Yom Teruah, in September 2017
And it isn't the Jews who will build the new Temple. Zechariah 6:15

 

[joshua 1 9]

Health being important has merits, but the narrow way is through Christ's pain and suffering and that my friend is detrimental to health. If we become to much health conscious we loose the agape love that is based on sacrificial love.

If we try to save ourselves we will loose Christ.

Actually we are to deny self and die to the flesh and live in the Spirit. “If you listen carefully to the LORD your God and do what is right in his eyes, if you pay attention to his commands and keep all his decrees, I will not bring on you any of the diseases I brought on the Egyptians, for I am the LORD, who heals you.” Exodus 15 26

 

[Douggg]

A generation as defined by the Bible IS 40 YEARS...see Numbers 32:13

Numbers 32:13
And the LORD'S anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them wander in the wilderness FORTY YEARS, UNTIL ALL THE GENERATION, that had done evil in the sight of the LORD, WAS CONSUMED.

1967 + 40 = 2007

How old were they when the 40 year count began? The reason that generation passed away in the wilderness after the 40 years were determined upon them is that they refused to go into the promised land. They were already in the twenties and thirties, forties, fifities, sixties....when they were made to wander in the desert 40 years. So you add their age already to the 40 and that generation was way over forty - more like sixty and seventy.

 

[Riberra]

How old were they when the 40 year count began? The reason that generation passed away in the wilderness after the 40 years were determined upon them is that they refused to go into the promised land. They were already in the twenties and thirties, forties, fifities, sixties....when they were made to wander in the desert 40 years. So you add their age already to the 40 and that generation was way over forty - more like sixty and seventy.

You seem to be stuck into thinking that a generation means the average lifespan of a person which today is about 80 years....which was obviously less longer in Moses time.

Have you ever looking into a dictionary about the meaning of the word generation ?

Question: "How long is a generation in the Bible?"

Answer: The Bible uses the term generation in some different ways. Normally, the word generation refers to all the people living at the same time—i.e., the word in the Bible has the same definition that we are used to in modern usage when we speak of Generation X or the Millennial Generation. Normally, a generation is about thirty years; one generation raises the next.

 

[Archmike]

You seem to be stuck into thinking that a generation means the average lifespan of a person which today is about 80 years....which was obviously less longer in Moses time.

Have you ever looking into a dictionary about the meaning of the word generation ?

Question: "How long is a generation in the Bible?"

Answer: The Bible uses the term generation in some different ways. Normally, the word generation refers to all the people living at the same time—i.e., the word in the Bible has the same definition that we are used to in modern usage when we speak of Generation X or the Millennial Generation. Normally, a generation is about thirty years; one generation raises the next.

Christ referred to The Fig Tree parable when discussing a generation of time. The Fig Tree Parable is simply a metaphoric description of the beginning of the state of Israel in 1948, and their becoming a nation in 1949. So, those born in this year, would be the start of that end times generation.

Christ then says that "this generation shall not pass" before all these things I'm telling you come to pass.

A generation may be defined as 40 years wwwwaaaayyyy back in the day, but nowadays ( and "nowadays" is Christ's audience with regards to this prophecy ) a generation is at least twice as long, say 80 years.

If this is so, then 1948 + 80 = 2028 AD

However, we have to assume that 100 years is more appropriate because in 2030 ish, people in this modern age will indeed live to past 100 years old. sssooooo.....

1948 + 100 = 2048 Ad

The end times will conclude sometime between 2028 and 2048.

....and that's the way it is, Wednesday, April 4th, 2017....this is Mike Johnson, reporting, good night !

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[Riberra]

Christ referred to The Fig Tree parable when discussing a generation of time. The Fig Tree Parable is simply a metaphoric description of the beginning of the state of Israel in 1948, and their becoming a nation in 1949. So, those born in this year, would be the start of that end times generation.

Christ then says that "this generation shall not pass" before all these things I'm telling you come to pass.

A generation may be defined as 40 years wwwwaaaayyyy back in the day, but nowadays ( and "nowadays" is Christ's audience with regards to this prophecy ) a generation is at least twice as long, say 80 years.

If this is so, then 1948 + 80 = 2028 AD

However, we have to assume that 100 years is more appropriate because in 2030 ish, people in this modern age will indeed live to past 100 years old. sssooooo.....

1948 + 100 = 2048 Ad

The end times will conclude sometime between 2028 and 2048.

If you are old enough you are surely aware that when the Modern Nation named Israel came into existence in 1948, all the pre-trib rapturist Churches pastors in the USA-which by the way are all formed at -Dallas Theological Seminary institute- preached that everything will be fulfilled by 1988 -they used Numbers 32:13 to determine that a Biblical Generation is 40 years-.When 1988 came and passed they changed the goal post saying that the parable of the fig tree was about Jerusalem which the Jews regain in 1967...still using the 40 years as a Biblical generation from Numbers 32:13...when 2007 came and passed they stopped using Numbers 32:13 to determine the lenght of a Biblical Generation... Nuff said !

1948 + 100 = 2048

Perfect example.

 

[Douggg]

You seem to be stuck into thinking that a generation means the average lifespan of a person which today is about 80 years....which was obviously less longer in Moses time.

currently the average global lifespan stastically is 66.25 years.

Have you ever looking into a dictionary about the meaning of the word generation ?

Question: "How long is a generation in the Bible?"

Answer: The Bible uses the term generation in some different ways. Normally, the word generation refers to all the people living at the same time—i.e., the word in the Bible has the same definition that we are used to in modern usage when we speak of Generation X or the Millennial Generation. Normally, a generation is about thirty years; one generation raises the next.

A generation in the bible is three score and ten. It is not 40 years, as I demonstrated.

Why do you continue to argue with me when 40 years plus 1967 has been eliminated, as well as, 40 years plus 1948 ?

 

[Riberra]

currently the average global lifespan stastically is 66.25 years.


A generation in the bible is three score and ten. It is not 40 years, as I demonstrated.

Why do you continue to argue with me when 40 years plus 1967 has been eliminated, as well as, 40 years plus 1948 ?

Why not admitting that the parable of the Fig Tree have nothing to do with Israel formed in 1948 or Jerusalem taken by the Jews in 1967 ?

Jesus said in Matthew 24:13
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

How can you reconciliate Matthew 24:13 with your wishfull thinking of a removal before these things ....?

Matthew 24:32-34
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

 

[Douggg]

Why not admitting that the parable of the Fig Tree have nothing to do with Israel formed in 1948 or Jerusalem taken by the Jews in 1967 ?

Jesus said in Matthew 24:13
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

How can you reconciliate Matthew 24:13 with your wishfull thinking of a removal before these things ....?

Matthew 24:32-34
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Matthew 24:13 means them who do not depart from believing in Jesus shall be saved, enduring whatever they are faced with.

 

[Riberra]

Matthew 24:13 means them who do not depart from believing in Jesus shall be saved, enduring whatever they are faced with.

Then ,no removal for the believers at the angenda.