The Big Bang (Hypothesis) vs. Creationism

[xXChristPeripheralXx]

That gulf war was initiated by one of the most christian presidents in recent memory.

No, Christians dont have that kind of power..

If you believe that man was a Christian you are crazy..

Not that it would matter, he doesnt speak for the Christians.. He speaks for money..

 

[bhsmte]

Yes we call that the ecumenical gathering.

We know the Bible was written by men.

We speak in spirit, when indwelt, and some in those days were called to prophecy.

The Prophets wrote the same things spanning almost 2000 years and the men never knew each other, they were all alive at different times but were called by God to communicate.. They all said the same thing, its not "made up"...

Save for Christ and his Gospel, everything in the Bible checks out historically accurate and hasnt been proven wrong before.

You must have a small group of conservative christian scholars and historians you rely on for your bible historicity, because most biblical scholars and historians would disagree with your take above.

 

[bhsmte]

No, Christians dont have that kind of power..

If you believe that man was a Christian you are crazy..

Not that it would matter, he doesnt speak for the Christians.. He speaks for money..

Power? He was the president and a devout christian. Guess it didn't do him much good when it came down to it.

 

[xXChristPeripheralXx]

You must have a small group of conservative christian scholars and historians you rely on for your bible historicity, because most biblical scholars and historians would disagree with your take above.

Tell them to state their case, Ill state mine..

 

[bhsmte]

Tell them to state their case, Ill state mine..

Does the New Testament present a reliable portrait of the Historical Jesus? ( Bart's OP ST 2 of 4 ) - YouTube

 

[Kylie]

Except the Bible which has a perfect synchronicity with human history says the Jews, historically, not prophetically, were enslaved by the Egyptians..

You are just looking for any reason you can not to believe that..

You havent discovered anything on your own, you havent been to Egypt to search it and prove anything.

No, but many others have and they found nothing.

You honestly at the end of the day dont really have any objective proof they werent enslaved.

The fact that we have egyptian records that span the time in question and mention nothing about the entire thing isn't proof enough for you? On the other hand, what evidence do you have outside the Bible that they were ever enslaved?

Further, there is never been one recorded instance in history of a race of people claiming to be slaves when it was really a lie, people just dont do that..

People don't make a race slaves?

You come from the USA. Don't you know your own history?

If you spoke with a Jew, perhaps they could bring you up to speed on their history as a people.

Yes, I'm sure they could tell me the same religious stories you know. I want evidence, not stories.

The Jews have been teaching this aspect of their history since it happened.

Oh, well that proves it then, doesn't it?

 

[mathetes123]

I think he likes his own (human-related) interpretation even more than shrimp. So much for disdain towards the idea of "man's standard".

Your icon indicates you are a Christian. Please provide the correct interpretation if you feel mine is incorrect, and provide support from scripture so that it is clear that your interpretation is not your own "human-related" interpretation.

 

[quatona]

Your icon indicates you are a Christian. Please provide the correct interpretation if you feel mine is incorrect, and provide support from scripture so that it is clear that your interpretation is not your own "human-related" interpretation.

I didn´t see him claiming or implying that his own interpretation was less "human-related" than yours.

 

[mathetes123]

I didn´t see him claiming or implying that his own interpretation was less "human-related" than yours.

The implication of his words was that my interpretation was incorrect which further implies that for my interpretation to be incorrect he believes his to be correct.

 

[xXChristPeripheralXx]

No, but many others have and they found nothing.



The fact that we have egyptian records that span the time in question and mention nothing about the entire thing isn't proof enough for you? On the other hand, what evidence do you have outside the Bible that they were ever enslaved?



People don't make a race slaves?

You come from the USA. Don't you know your own history?



Yes, I'm sure they could tell me the same religious stories you know. I want evidence, not stories.



Oh, well that proves it then, doesn't it?

What egyptian records are you talking about?

Do you read Hieroglyphics and you have studied them or something?



You guys are claiming that a race of people "made up" the story about being slaves?

How does that makes sense, no one in History has ever lied about being enslaved as a nation..

You guys dont make any sense with this stuff...

 

[quatona]

The implication of his words was that my interpretation was incorrect which further implies that for my interpretation to be incorrect he believes his to be correct.

Actually, I can´t manage to read that from his post. What he seems to be saying is that it´s kind of ironic for a human to tell others that their interpretation is "human-related", thereby pretending his isn´t.
As far as I can tell, Received - as opposed to you - is quite aware that his own interprations are as "human-related" as anybody else´s.

 

[mathetes123]

Actually, I can´t manage to read that from his post. What he seems to be saying is that it´s kind of ironic for a human to tell others that their interpretation is "human-related", thereby pretending his isn´t.

I'll let him speak for himself. Words have meaning.

 

[quatona]

I'll let him speak for himself.

Yes, I hope he comes back and clarifies.

Words have meaning.

Indeed, and seeing how here you read something into words that they clearly don´t mean does not exactly make your bible-interpretation trustworthy, either.

 

[mathetes123]

Yes, I hope he comes back and clarifies.

Indeed, and seeing how here you read something into words that they clearly don´t mean does not exactly make your bible-interpretation trustworthy, either.

What have I read into words that they clearly don't mean?

 

[quatona]

What have I read into words that they clearly don't mean?

Post #227.

 

[mathetes123]

Post #227.

Still don't see it but not in the mood to argue for the sake of argument. Do you have a relevant point to make.

 

[Received]

Your icon indicates you are a Christian. Please provide the correct interpretation if you feel mine is incorrect, and provide support from scripture so that it is clear that your interpretation is not your own "human-related" interpretation.

I'll do all that so long as you prove to me how your appeal to the ten commandments as exclusively and comprehensively being the laws that really count *isn't* a manmade (i.e., your) interpretation.

 

[mathetes123]

I'll do all that so long as you prove to me how your appeal to the ten commandments as exclusively and comprehensively being the laws that really count *isn't* a manmade (i.e., your) interpretation.

I never made the claim that the ten commandments were exclusively and comprehensively the laws that really count. That was an assumption on your part.

Do you believe as a christian that you are under the dispensation of the law or of grace?

 

[Davian]

The real phrase is "Planting seeds"..

Nothing I am saying to you is for right now, I know that doesnt make much sense to you now, but it will..

I haven't seen any seeds, but plenty of fertilizer.

 

[Davian]

How is my foot in my mouth in the first place?

You described someone that was exhibiting altruistic behaviour as absolutely wrong, while emphasizing the power of altruism.

Gandhi revered Christ, but he wasnt a Christian.

Im not familiar with Gandhis arrest records, do you have specific events in mind for reference?

Nevermind, he was a nobody anyway.