Taking Questions on Embedded Age Creation

[Akita Suggagaki]

Maybe you will find this interesting.

PBS Documentary on Pierre Teilhard de Chardin "Teilhard: Visionary Scientist"

https://www.pbs.org/video/teilhard-visionary-scientist-pt9dc1/

www.christianforums.com

 

[Ace777]

God said He created the universe, then stretched (past tense) it out.

In the Hebrew and Aramaic idiom in which the Bible was written, when something was absolutely going to happen in the future, it is often spoken of as if it had already occurred in the past. Hebrew scholars are familiar with this idiom and refer to it as “the prophetic perfect,” “the historic sense of prophecy,” and the “perfective of confidence.” [1] Students studying Semitic language and thought sometimes call this idiom, “here now, but not yet” or “already—not yet.” [2]

 

[AV1611VET]

In the Hebrew and Aramaic idiom in which the Bible was written, when something was absolutely going to happen in the future, it is often spoken of as if it had already occurred in the past. Hebrew scholars are familiar with this idiom and refer to it as “the prophetic perfect,” “the historic sense of prophecy,” and the “perfective of confidence.” [1] Students studying Semitic language and thought sometimes call this idiom, “here now, but not yet” or “already—not yet.” [2]

That's cool.

 

[Ace777]

That's cool.

So what was your answer on how there can be embedded age when 98% of all life is now extinct? Do you really think all of those fossils came and went in a 24 hour day? There are huge, massive amounts of fossils.

Chalk, is a type of limestone formed from the accumulation of tiny marine organisms’ shells and skeletons, primarily composed of calcium carbonate23. While the formation of chalk involves organic processes, the material itself is considered inorganic.

 

[AV1611VET]

So what was your answer on how there can be embedded age when 98% of all life is now extinct?

Embedded aging was done during the Creation Week, and it stopped when God rested on the Seventh Day.

It's like coloring.

You stop coloring when the picture is done.

The 98% of life that you are referring to is a result of the Fall, which occurred AFTER the Creation Week ended.

Do you really think all of those fossils came and went in a 24 hour day?

No.

There are huge, massive amounts of fossils.

Groovy.

Chalk, is a type of limestone formed from the accumulation of tiny marine organisms’ shells and skeletons, primarily composed of calcium carbonate23. While the formation of chalk involves organic processes, the material itself is considered inorganic.

Splendid.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

I'll take questions on Embedded Age Creation here.

I define Embedded Age Creation as: maturity without history.

Main question is why? Why create the world to look older than it actually is?

 

[Ace777]

You stop coloring when the picture is done.

The fossils are all found at different layers. So if all of those layers were created by the flood then how do you explain the grand canyon? The flood could not have created all of those layers and washed them away at the same time.

 

[Ace777]

Why create the world to look older than it actually is?

To explain why as day in Genesis is a 24 hour day.

 

[dlamberth]

Main question is why? Why create the world to look older than it actually is?

My main observation is that Embedded Age makes God out to be anything but honest and upfront with what He creates.

 

[Ace777]

My main observation is that Embedded Age makes God out to be anything but honest and upfront with what He creates.

That is why Paul tells us in Roman 1 19. All of creation is to teach us about God, not to show us He is a trickster. God does not want to deceive us, He wants us to know the truth.

18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.…

 

[AV1611VET]

Main question is why?

This passage gives us a good perspective:

Matthew 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

Some things need to be old, else they won't function right.

Why create the world to look older than it actually is?

He didn't.

The world "looks old" because it "is old".

 

[AV1611VET]

The fossils are all found at different layers. So if all of those layers were created by the flood then how do you explain the grand canyon? The flood could not have created all of those layers and washed them away at the same time.

What does the Flood have to do with the Creation Week?

The Creation Week took place in 4004 BC.

The Flood occurred in 2348 BC.

 

[AV1611VET]

My main observation is that Embedded Age makes God out to be anything but honest and upfront with what He creates.

Is that why He told us what He did, when He did it, why He did it, where He did it, what order He did it in, how long it took Him to do it, why it took Him that long, and who the eyewitness were by name?

He did that so academians could come along circa the 19th century and start accusing Him of deception?

 

[AV1611VET]

That is why Paul tells us in Roman 1 19. All of creation is to teach us about God, not to show us He is a trickster.

That's right.

And in no way, shape, or form is it to contradict Scripture.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

This passage gives us a good perspective:

Matthew 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

Some things need to be old, else they won't function right.

He didn't.

The world "looks old" because it "is old".

But not nearly as old as geology tells us.

 

[AV1611VET]

But not nearly as old as geology tells us.

Huh?

If a rock is a billion years old, it's a billion years old.

And it should look and function like it's a billion years old.

But it has only been in existence since 4004 BC.

 

[Ace777]

And in no way, shape, or form is it to contradict Scripture.

Did you ever look to see all that scripture went through before King James got a hold of it? There is a lot of oral tradition in our written Bible.

 

[Aaron112]

Did you ever look to see all that scripture went through before King James got a hold of it? There is a lot of oral tradition in our written Bible.

Rather ask the Creator, the Author of Life, of Faith, and of all Scripture,
to
reveal the truth.

The oral man-authored religious traditions of men is what Jesus opposed/ and opposes.

 

[Aaron112]

Huh?
If a rock is a billion years old, it's a billion years old.
And it should look and function like it's a billion years old.
But it has only been in existence since 4004 BC.

I found a rock and measured it. It is only a few thousand years old. Never could find one over a million years old.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Huh?

If a rock is a billion years old, it's a billion years old.

And it should look and function like it's a billion years old.

But it has only been in existence since 4004 BC.

You are ok with that absurdity?