Taking Questions on Embedded Age Creation

[Akita Suggagaki]

This is just last thursdayism. No theological or scientific value.

You guys make me learn something new very day. The proposition that the universe began to exist last Thursday, with the appearance of age and history. And I suppose our memories also. Cool

 

[AV1611VET]

You guys make me learn something new very day. The proposition that the universe began to exist last Thursday, with the appearance of age and history. And I suppose our memories also. Cool

I once asked Estrid if she knew the difference between Embedded Age and Last Thursdayism.

"313,000 Thursdays"

Post 957

 

[dlamberth]

You have no idea what you're rejecting.

I know very clearly what I'm bringing into my Heart. And of that you have no idea!

 

[dlamberth]

Sinners need hugs.

It's pretty hard to see God everywhere one turns and at the same time see sin everywhere one turns. It all has to do with having God as one's reality in life. But that's a Panentheist thing.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's pretty hard to see God everywhere one turns and at the same time see sin everywhere one turns.

It would be, if grace didn't abound.

Romans 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

Grace is defined as: "getting what you don't deserve".

That is, Heaven.

It all has to do with having God as one's reality in life.

Oh, He's real alright.

Whether He is blacklisted or not, He's real.

QV my new caption.

But that's a Panentheist thing.

They need hugs too.

 

[dlamberth]

Oh, He's real alright.

Real enough to see Him around us?

 

[AV1611VET]

Real enough to see Him around us?

Soon.

 

[dlamberth]

Soon.

"Now" is where I'm at. I've found that it's much better to see every Human Being as an activity of God. It changes one's attitude such that we become a better person in the process.

 

[AV1611VET]

"Now" is where I'm at. I've found that it's much better to see every Human Being as an activity of God. It changes one's attitude such that we become a better person in the process.

Can our souls lie?

 

[dlamberth]

Can our souls lie?

Being an activity of God, Nope!
Our ego sure can though.

 

[AV1611VET]

Being an activity of God, Nope!

Fair enough.

The Good Book says otherwise.

 

[dlamberth]

Fair enough.

The Good Book says otherwise.

I know.
Among many issues, this one more than others goes right to the point of my de-conversion.

 

[AV1611VET]

I know.
Among many issues, this one more than others goes right to the point of my de-conversion.

What made you convert in the first place?

Did God draw you to Him?

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

 

[dlamberth]

Did God draw you to Him?

I've always been drawn to God as long as I can remember. It took my de-conversion to really be allowed to explore the Divine experience.

As an aside: I'm trying to be very careful of forum rules. So if I appear coy, my apologies.

 

[AV1611VET]

I've always been drawn to God as long as I can remember.

Yes, I know. He said He would.

It took my de-conversion to really be allowed to explore the Divine experience.

So He drew you to Him, you responded, then abandoned Him for greener pastures?

As an aside: I'm trying to be very careful of forum rules. So if I appear coy, my apologies.

It's your testimony.

I don't see why you have to fear forum rules.

 

[dlamberth]

So He drew you to Him, you responded, then abandoned Him for greener pastures?

No one here abandoned God. In fact the connection grew stronger. Way stronger than I could ever have imagined. It's all about the religion that I left, not God.

 

[doubtingmerle]

I once asked Estrid if she knew the difference between Embedded Age and Last Thursdayism.

"313,000 Thursdays"

Post 957

The rock layers down there have clear indication that they have been undergoing radioactive decay for millions of years. If you say they were created this way--after the Flood--such that their apparent age was embedded in them, is not that basically the same reasoning as the suggestion that we were created Last Thursday with our memories embedded in us? How do you know one is true and not the other?

 

[AV1611VET]

The rock layers down there have clear indication that they have been undergoing radioactive decay for millions of years

Only on paper.

If you say they were created this way--after the Flood--

What if I say they were created before the Flood?

-- such that their apparent age was embedded in them,

You mean their physical age embedded in them?

... is not that basically the same reasoning as the suggestion that we were created Last Thursday with our memories embedded in us?

I don't know.

What's embedded apparent age?

How do you know one is true and not the other?

From Wiktionary:

Last Thursdayism:

The proposition that the universe began to exist last Thursday, with the appearance of age and history.

I don't believe the universe was created with a fake history.

 

[dlamberth]

I don't believe the universe was created with a fake history.

But with a fake age.

 

[AV1611VET]

But with a fake age.

I don't believe that, either.

You might consider it fake, but creating a loaf of raisin bread would be fake to you too, wouldn't it?