Not only are they abandoning conservative values, they are trashing those who don't, led by Trump himself. One only has to look at how, say, John McCain was treated.You are correct to a point. There isn't a conservative party in the U.S., there never was one. From the 1860s on it has been the republicans and democrats, with a few insignificant parties.
The republican party is in bad shape. Most republican politicians aren't helping much at all. They are abandoning conservative values, but they are the best option for conservatives right now. Trump is the best option for conservatives right now.
John McCain was not really a conservative.Not only are they abandoning conservative values, they are trashing those who don't, led by Trump himself. One only has to look at how, say, John McCain was treated.
Yikes what?Yikes.
John McCain was not really a conservative.
(sigh)
My views are very different from the views of the Left. Naturally, I believe Biden will ruin America, because he stands for all the things I don't and I stand for all the things he doesn't. The same is true for the other side. Trump stands for things they don't and they stand for things Trump doesn't, so naturally they think he is the one ruining America. Maybe we can look back in 20 years or so and see who is right.
Not only are they abandoning conservative values, they are trashing those who don't, led by Trump himself. One only has to look at how, say, John McCain was treated.
How do you figure?
You are correct to a point. There isn't a conservative party in the U.S., there never was one. From the 1860s on it has been the republicans and democrats, with a few insignificant parties.
The republican party is in bad shape. Most republican politicians aren't helping much at all. They are abandoning conservative values, but they are the best option for conservatives right now. Trump is the best option for conservatives right now.
“Democratic sympathizers”, oh my!
But seriously, given the current state of affairs, the Parties are likely going to be switching ideologies again.
The Republicans are wedded to President Trump, who is currently calling into question the value of various parts of our government and whether the “administrative state” is effective form of governance.
This is not a “conservative” position, at all.
If this continues the Democrats will find themselves fighting to maintain the status quo, becoming “conservative” by default.
Of course this means that “conservative core values” will necessarily include maintaining the legacies of FDR, JFK/LBJ and BHO.
The Republicans will become “the party of ideas”, aka, liberals.
Enjoy your day!
When it reaches 270, they will have neutralized the Electoral College, barring a Supreme Court decision that rules against it. If Biden wins, Ruth Bader Ginsburg will retire and Biden will nominate someone to replace her on the Court who will be the 5th vote for the NPV.
That's not how constitutional change works.
I wasn't clear enough. Although the electors are chosen by the states, it is their votes in the Electoral College that determines the president.
But by this proposed National Popular Vote scheme, the states circumvent the usual process of the College by requiring their electors to vote for the winner of the popular vote regardless of how the election went in their own states.
So far, 18 (?) states have signed on to it by action of their legislatures and they account for over 190 electoral votes that would be given to the candidate who gets the most popular votes nationwide, regardless of who won any of those states.
When it reaches 270, they will have neutralized the Electoral College, barring a Supreme Court decision that rules against it.
If Biden wins, Ruth Bader Ginsburg will retire and Biden will nominate someone to replace her on the Court who will be the 5th vote for the NPV.
John McCain was not really a conservative.
Yikes.
How do you figure?
I'm beginning to get the feeling that it's you who is not a conservative.
Do you have anything specific in mind?I agree that McCain wasn't really a conservative. He sure tried hard to look like a conservative when he ran for president, but that doesn't mesh with his wishy washy voting record in the Senate, as far as I can tell.
I agree that McCain wasn't really a conservative. He sure tried hard to look like a conservative when he ran for president, but that doesn't mesh with his wishy washy voting record in the Senate, as far as I can tell.
Maybe it goes through the courts and appeals system, just like his taxes and almost four years later (sometime after the 2024 election) the supreme court will be ready to make a call on whether the 2020 election can be delayed."The question isn't whether Trump has legal authority to move Election Day and thereby extend his presidency—he doesn't—but a different question: what happens if he just declares that he *does* have this power? And what if he can do so with a false *veneer* of legal legitimacy?"
And so Seth Abramson walks us through such a scenario.
Would you vote in November anyway?
This site analyzed his voting record and came to a somewhat different conclusion.
John McCain, former Senator for Arizona - GovTrack.us
What was your criteria?
The winner of the popular vote in any state elects a slate of electors. Then these people customarily vote in convention 100% for their party's nominee. So the winner of the popular vote in each state (even if the vote was close) gets all that state's electoral votes. It sometimes happens, then, that the winner of the popular vote nationally does not win a majority of the Electoral College votes.What do you mean by "the usual process"?
But not necessarily for the winner of the popular vote in their respective states.It hardly neutralizes the Electoral College, since electors are still chosen, and they still vote for President.
The winner of the popular vote in any state elects a slate of electors. Then these people customarily vote in convention 100% for their party's nominee. So the winner of the popular vote in each state (even if the vote was close) gets all that state's electoral votes. It sometimes happens, then, that the winner of the popular vote nationally does not win a majority of the Electoral College votes.
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