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Suppose Trump used the emergency powers to postpone the election

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by jardiniere, Aug 14, 2020.

  1. jardiniere

    jardiniere Well-Known Member

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    "The question isn't whether Trump has legal authority to move Election Day and thereby extend his presidency—he doesn't—but a different question: what happens if he just declares that he *does* have this power? And what if he can do so with a false *veneer* of legal legitimacy?"
    And so Seth Abramson walks us through such a scenario.

    Would you vote in November anyway?
     
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  2. variant

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    The time would be better spent overthrowing our new dictator.
     
  3. GreatLakes4Ever

    GreatLakes4Ever Well-Known Member

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    Vote anyways and hope enough of Trump’s idiotic followers believe him, don’t vote, and hand Biden an easy victory.
     
  4. SeventyOne

    SeventyOne Well-Known Member

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    They keep pushing this mail-in voting charade, he just might need to declare an emergency, or even martial law, and blame it on the fake pandemic if he needs to.
     
  5. Soldier of the Cross

    Soldier of the Cross Well-Known Member

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    I am a Trump supporter, but I really don't see a reason to postpone the election.
     
  6. Xenophon

    Xenophon Active Member

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    Wouldn't that depend on whether or on the local polls were open? Feel like we wouldn't get a say in it regardless of how it goes down.
     
  7. Hans Blaster

    Hans Blaster Well-Known Member

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    If the polling place is open, I will vote.

    If it is not open, I will go to the board of elections and demand that they open it.

    It is that simple.
     
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  8. QvQ

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    The Supreme Court ruled that Rhode Island could do vote by mail, not witness or notary because there wasn't any opposition. In Alabama, the Court stated that witnesses were needed because there was State opposition.
    How voting is conducted is a State's right. That is why there is a Federal Voting Rights Act passed very late in the nation's history but that Federal imposition is limited in scope..
    A State could, theoretically, suspend an election but the Federal Government cannot.
    That is the basis of the Supreme Court decisions which seem to be contradictory but aren't.
     
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  9. JackRT

    JackRT Well-Known Member Supporter

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    He might be able to make a case for a small delay in the actual election but the Constitution is very clear --- a president leaves office on January 6 and a new President (possibly the same person) takes office. He may have to be dragged kicking and screaming out of the Oval Office. This could trigger a national crisis.
     
  10. QvQ

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    Yes, How voting is conducted, when where and how is a up to the States. The Feds had to pass the Voting Rights Act to get any control over the process.
    The States could, theoretically, cancel an election. The Feds cannot.
    The States open the polls and pass out the ballots.
    Most don't seem to understand the political process very well. Trump could cancel the election but only if the officials in the States do that. Trump knows that it was a suggestion, not a mandate like Biden/Harris mask "mandate."
     
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  11. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN I'm praying for my dad to get well.

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    As soon is I get my mail ballot. I plan to vote.
     
  12. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    What would happen? the Left would condemn it, the Right would rationalize it, and we'd usher in the reign of Donald I.
     
  13. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Donald hasn't given you one yet.
     
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  14. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    As good a reason as any to delay your ballot as long as the Establishment can...
     
  15. Nithavela

    Nithavela The reasoning for the seasoning

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    Only because Fox & Friends haven't given him one yet.
     
  16. Albion

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    Maybe little green men from Mars will land here and turn half of the population into salt.
    Would you vote in November anyway?

    Maybe Biden's people will overthrow the US government before election day and declare a "Peoples Republic."
    Would you vote anyway?

    Maybe all the candidates will mysteriously vanish before election day.
    Would you vote in November anyway?

    :rolleyes:

    The point is that all manner of absurd speculation can be offered if we want to talk about things that are not real. We should be sticking to serious conversation on this "American Politics" forum, however; there are other forums for idle chatter, joking around, and so on.
     
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  17. Hank77

    Hank77 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    No, on January 20, 2021 at 12:00 noon Senator Patrick Leahy would become the new Pro Temp of the Senate, temporarily filling in for the next President.
     
  18. Hank77

    Hank77 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I agree I can't see even these Republicans in Congress now playing along with any scenario like this.
     
  19. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN I'm praying for my dad to get well.

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    CA. Isn't delaying mail ballot. Over Trump brainwashing attempt to bash mail voting.
     
  20. Sparagmos

    Sparagmos Well-Known Member

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    That is terrifying. I hope all of the people commenting read the article. The fact that the states control voting wouldn’t stop the scenario presented.
     
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