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Here is an excellent debate on the Sabbath. I haven't finished it yet but what I've seen so far is very good: http://youtu.be/LdfeMkgqgrQ
Here is an excellent debate on the Sabbath. I haven't finished it yet but what I've seen so far is very good: http://youtu.be/LdfeMkgqgrQ
Thou shall not steal is a law, Thou shall have no other God is a law. So are these not for us also?gen 15:6, had nothing to do with a Jewish origin, in fact, everywhere Paul used Abraham, who first got the gospel as a gentile, was used to ward off Judaism, law, circumcision, pride, nationalism, ethnic supremacy, etc.
Are free to kill and steal?There is no debate over the Sabbath except with those who want Christians to reject the freedom for which Christ has set us free, and instead return to the burden of the yoke of slavery to the Law.
The debate is not over the Sabbath, the debate is between the Law and Grace...as it has been from the very beginning of Christianity. To which the majority of the NT is written to guard against....our succumbing to the attempts by those who seek to put us back under that which Christ gave His life to free us from.
I watched that before, it was pretty good. Jim Staley stuck with the bible and Chris had to use 1st century Christians writings for everything. They both had great points, but I think Jim won that debate.
There is no debate over the Sabbath except with those who want Christians to reject the freedom for which Christ has set us free, and instead return to the burden of the yoke of slavery to the Law.
The debate is not over the Sabbath, the debate is between the Law and Grace...as it has been from the very beginning of Christianity. To which the majority of the NT is written to guard against....our succumbing to the attempts by those who seek to put us back under that which Christ gave His life to free us from.
You're free to kill and steal under the Law, obviously.
Thank you Bob. I have been keeping a Saturday Sabbath awhile and I am leaning towards this being the right way.
Some turn the grace of God into a license to sin.
You clearly have not read the 10 commandments because #8 is thou shalt not steal and there is severe penalties for thieves.
You clearly have not read the 10 commandments because #8 is thou shalt not steal and there is severe penalties for thieves.
They do but they have grace.
Please explain why these pro-sunday scholars don't push nor practice the 7th day Sabbath.And of course even the majority of pro-sunday scholarship chooses not to be at war against the Ten Commandments - affirming that even the Sabbath commandment remains and is binding on all the saints. They have a 7 point list that I have identified - where I agree with them on 6 of their 7 points.
in Christ,
Bob
Are you saying they have permission? And who is they? Please quote or reference any time the law didn't get death for disobedience.They do but they have grace.
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