Strippers...What are your thoughts??

[DJ_Ghost]

If there was a more balanced male version of stripping that women were attracted to go see, there might be a different attitude from the men.

Actually male strippers in the UK are the ones that do the lewd bumping and grinding, complete with encouraging the audience to touch them and simulate sex. Most British men seem to have no problem with it, and many book male strippers for their girlfriends birthdays/hen night (I think hen nights are called bachelorette parties in the USA).

Ghost

 

[sinner/SAVED]

So are there still people that end up in heaven?

Of course there are. Sins don't keep you from heaven. Thinking that your sins are not sins keep you from heaven.

 

[sinner/SAVED]

"But I say to you that anyone who has never looked at a woman with lust is...well, dead." - me, quoted here.

 

[sinner/SAVED]

There is nothing mutual in business, it is all about power relationships.

You must be in the wrong business.

 

[sinner/SAVED]

How can you commit adultery if neither you nor the woman are married?

It seems that Jesus changed the definition of adultery when He said that lustful thoughts are adultery.

 

[Romany]

I think strip shows are just an outlet for a lot of lust and that disturbs me. If I knew someone I was involved with was going to a strip club, I would immediately presume that they have too much greed for the things of this world for me to handle.

 

[ninabina]

What continually blows my mind is that people think the human body is something shameful and needs to be covered. When they dont get that there is NOTHING wrong with the human body and/or swinging it around. Does it it get you excited? DUH! The human body (usually) has nice curves for a reason.

Well, Religion aside, since you won't entertain religion as a backup for our exceptions to this, why are we judged by our bodies if they are all just great and shouldn't be covered? Something tells me that if those in the stripper profession were overweight, too skinny, too flat, scars on the body, cellulite, anything that people find unnatractive about the human body, you would be the first one to say "Hey go put on some clothes!" So yeah, if you really believe what you said, do you feel that freedom should belong to "everyone"? Serious question.

 

[Eudaimonist]

I think strip shows are just an outlet for a lot of lust and that disturbs me.

An outlet can be a good thing. I am wary of people who keep their desires pent up and frustrated.

 

[DrFate]

Vogue Magazine and other High Fashion exhibits are way more entertaining than strippers.

 

[DrFate]

I remember when Venice Beach in California went nudist for a while. EEEK all those roles of flab, wrinkles, hangy parts, scars, stretch marks just did not enhanse my enjoyment. I stayed down near my place on the Marina Del Rey side.
Clothes are very good things for most of us.

 

[DrFate]

I thought the ADam and Eve nakedness issue was an expression of their disobeying God. He made them perfect, so they had nothing to be ashamed of. The serpent bequiled them and taught them shame and disobediance to the paths of God.

 

[christalee4]

Actually male strippers in the UK are the ones that do the lewd bumping and grinding, complete with encouraging the audience to touch them and simulate sex. Most British men seem to have no problem with it, and many book male strippers for their girlfriends birthdays/hen night (I think hen nights are called bachelorette parties in the USA).

Ghost

There is more of relaxed attitude towards nudity and sexuality in Europe, IMO. America is very puritanical about nudity, in addition to the whole notion that abstinence is the only alternative to sex within a marriage also. Yet Americans consume tons of porn, have higher rates of teen pregnancy, STD's.

If male strip bars that catered to women were as popular as the regular strip clubs in the U.S., I think you'd see more jealous men out there who would change their tunes. Either women aren't as stimulated visually by looking at a nude man, as men are looking at female nudity - or - there isn't enough tasteful women-oriented erotica out there to tempt women visually.

 

[DJ_Ghost]

There is more of relaxed attitude towards nudity and sexuality in Europe, IMO. America is very puritanical about nudity, in addition to the whole notion that abstinence is the only alternative to sex within a marriage also. Yet Americans consume tons of porn, have higher rates of teen pregnancy, STD's.

If male strip bars that catered to women were as popular as the regular strip clubs in the U.S., I think you'd see more jealous men out there who would change their tunes. Either women aren't as stimulated visually by looking at a nude man, as men are looking at female nudity - or - there isn't enough tasteful women-oriented erotica out there to tempt women visually.

A very thought provoking and insightful post. I tend to agree with you on all of the points you make in it.

Ghost

 

[Taake]

Exactly the same with the drugpolicy here in the Netherlands. Soft-drugs are legal here, but we have far fewer addicts then in other countreys. It's like that a lot on there matters, even with deathpenalty and the likes. Severeness does not solve in most cases.

 

[Hanz5000]

aren't strippers promoting lust and arent that a bad thing

 

[Eudaimonist]

There is more of relaxed attitude towards nudity and sexuality in Europe, IMO. America is very puritanical about nudity

I've noticed that. I moved from America to Sweden two years ago, and I find the European attitude healthier and more mature.

 

[Ant21]

where abouts does Jesus sat that if you even look at a woman lustfully that you have already fornicated/committed adultary?

 

[Taake]

where abouts does Jesus sat that if you even look at a woman lustfully that you have already fornicated/committed adultary?

"But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart." - Jesus, quoted in Matthew 7:28

 

[Antoninus Verus]

America is very puritanical about nudity, in addition to the whole notion that abstinence is the only alternative to sex within a marriage also. Yet Americans consume tons of porn, have higher rates of teen pregnancy, STD's.

Hmmm....a sexually repressive environment breeds more sexual mistakes.......I REALLY wish more people would figgure that one out.

 

[Mashley]

I don't approve of them. I think if you are a married person, you should only see your spouse naked. If you aren't married, then you should only see yourself naked.