Stoning someone to death (punishment in the Bible)

[jimmyjimmy]

Why were people stoned to death, even though the 6th commandment says Thou Shalt Not Kill?

Because violations of certain laws held stoning as a penalty. God specifically instructed it. All sin leads to death, and this was God's way to demonstrate that. He is a consuming fire.

"For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God."

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Why were people stoned to death, even though the 6th commandment says Thou Shalt Not Kill?

In the cultural context, killing people for crimes against the community, and killing people in the context of war was not included in this law. I get the sense because both actions are done by consent of the whole community, the crime was not committed against the community.

 

[topcare]

Why were people stoned to death, even though the 6th commandment says Thou Shalt Not Kill?

Mistranslation. It means not to murder

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Why were people stoned to death, even though the 6th commandment says Thou Shalt Not Kill?

People were already stoning people to death. God came and worked with them as they were.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Why were people stoned to death, even though the 6th commandment says Thou Shalt Not Kill?

Being under the law as a theocracy in the Old Testament and being under grace to the Lord Jesus in the New Testament are very different situations.

What is constant is the holiness of God and His abhorrence of sin. By the law is the knowledge of sin; and the need for the Saviour Whom God graciously sent is made so clear by the results of sin.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Double post..............


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[HighwayMan]

"You shall not kill" obviously does not apply to people whom God commanded to be executed.

Nowhere is that explicitly stated. You say "obviously," but that is interpretation.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Nowhere is that explicitly stated. You say "obviously," but that is interpretation.

It is straight out obvious. no interpretation permitted or needed.

 

[HighwayMan]

Mistranslation. It means not to murder

That would be a very dangerous translation that pretty much justifies every war ever. "Oh we're not murdering, we're killing criminals! The other side says the same, but we are more right!"

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Why were people stoned to death, even though the 6th commandment says Thou Shalt Not Kill?

Why are any criminals EXECUTED in the united states,
when the united states has over 1000 laws saying "do not kill" (people) ?

See? It really is simple....

 

[HighwayMan]

It is straight out obvious. no interpretation permitted or needed.

I could give you a whole list of "straight out obvious" things in the Bible that you would disagree with me about the ends of the Earth. Just because you feel strongly about an interpretation doesn't make it fact.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I could give you a whole list of "straight out obvious" things in the Bible that you would disagree with me about the ends of the Earth. Just because you feel strongly about an interpretation doesn't make it fact.

I don't feel strongly about any interpretation.
Just going by what God Himself says straightforward, just as God says it.
Oh, there's a thousand "interpretations" all available and deceiving to billions of people ,
none of them right according to Scripture, and not one of them permitted by God
according to God's Word.

Stick with what God says in His WORD, that's all.

 

[HighwayMan]

I don't feel strongly about any interpretation.
Just going by what God Himself says straightforward, just as God says it.
Oh, there's a thousand "interpretations" all available and deceiving to billions of people ,
none of them right according to Scripture, and not one of them permitted by God
according to God's Word.

Stick with what God says in His WORD, that's all.

Yeah, like "thou shall not kill." Period.

Not, "hold on, it's actually do not murder, oh and there's an exception for people the government doesn't like, you can kill those, oh and also maybe" etc. etc.

It's "thou shall not kill."

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Yeah, like "thou shall not kill." Period.

Not, "hold on, it's actually do not murder, oh and there's an exception for people the government doesn't like, you can kill those, oh and also maybe" etc. etc.

It's "thou shall not kill."

Right.

 

[Deadworm]

The problem and scale of violence in the OT is admittedly problematic. But 7 facts tend to get overlooked in this sort of discussion:
1. There were no penitentiaries in Israel's nomadic wilderness wandering, no firing squads and no lethal injection as forms of capital punishment. In that setting, what is problematic is the line between sinful and criminal conduct and the proper punishment for the latter.
2. The very fact that God liberated the Israelites from Egyptian slavery already implies that God has a certain "Promised Land" in mine for them. Just where do you expect Israelites to settle unopposed?
3. Joshua's conquest of Canaan was not simply an invasion of outsiders; it was part of a civil war. Archaeology and scholarship has demonstrated that there were many Israelites already living in the Judean hills, who were likely oppressed by Canaanite city
4. Tribal warfare was often necessitated by a kill or be killed cultural world.
5. Just because Joshua massacred the men, women, and children of certain Canaanite towns doesn't in itself warrant the assumption that God authorized these massacres.
6. God makes clear that the mindset He wants Israel to nurture is working for a world that works for everyone. Thus, in the OT God twice reveal's His goal of a world in which people no longer study and participate in Warcraft (so Isaiah 2:4 and Micah 4:3).
7. Jesus can counter an obejectionable appeal to the Law of Moses by pointing to a Mosaic distortion of God's will due to Israel's "hardness of hearts (Mark 10:5)." In other words, in the wilderness they often weren't culturally ready to hear God's true will.

 

[Far Side Of the Moon]

"You shall not kill" obviously does not apply to people whom God commanded to be executed.

This is sad but very true.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

This is sad but very true.

What do you mean by this?

 

[Vicomte13]

Why were people stoned to death, even though the 6th commandment says Thou Shalt Not Kill?

Because God made specific laws that directed killing as the punishment for specific crimes.

God said the general rule: Don't kill.

And then God named specific crimes that offend him sufficiently for him to say: You must kill the people who do THIS.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Why were people stoned to death, even though the 6th commandment says Thou Shalt Not Kill?

The 10 commandments are instructions to people as individuals. It's addressed to individuals, not governments or churches.

There are rules that God laid out for governing the Nation of Israel, and they instructed executing people for certain violations.

In order to read any text or communicate with any person, we must be able to make distinctions. We must use critical thinking skills. Many words have multiple meanings according to their context.

 

[Far Side Of the Moon]

What do you mean by this?

Just what I mean...its sad but accurate.