Starbucks' plain red holiday cups stir up controversy

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That does look like nothing. Bakers sell cakes to people. It's part of the job description. Bake things and sell them to people.

If I walked into a gay bakery and asked for a cake saying 'Homosexuality is an abomination', you would say now that they should have to do it, but if we went back in time you would have sided with the bakers if that were the case.

It's just a snowballing. Act innocent, and then slowly become a wolf. That's what the gay agenda did, and it's especially true in the UK where they started to sabotage heterosexual marriage ceremonies and whatnot. It wasn't kept in check over there.
So you can sit there and act innocent, but others know better. That doesn't fly in the States and liberals are just mad that the conservatives here aren't pushovers like the one's across the sea.
 
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I think the same red cups, are being used at Starbucks in Europe, but the only outrage, is in America.
You have to realize that to many Christians in America, Europe has been overrun by Muslims and the US is the last hope for Christianity and its snowmen decorated cups. It's no wonder nobody's complained over there.
 
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Well the UK seems to treat Christianity like a disposable red cup. From an American's perspective, the UK is slowly growing as intolerant to Christianity as China has been. I heard about things over there that make bakers selling cakes to gay couples look like nothing.
Called it!
 
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Well it's not working too well, is it?

Actually, it is. Gays like to do things like sabotage heterosexual marriage ceremonies over there. That would not fly here, not even for a second. The agenda snowballs when conservatives decide to be pushovers.

The Starbucks cup controversy is not something I agree with, but it does show that Americans pay attention for better or worse. It's not the cup, but the company's reasoning for doing away with the cup, that should be noted.
 
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And your evidence of this is?

You're dreaming if you think I'm going to take time out of my day to dig up such incidents you're too lazy to do yourself.
Be ignorant of it, that's your problem. I've had it with needing to provide sources every two seconds, as if I should have to take measures for every statement I make just to prove it to people shutting their eyes and ears. Are you aware of Google? USE IT.
 
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You're dreaming if you think I'm going to take time out of my day to dig up such incidents you're too lazy to do yourself.
Be ignorant of it, that's your problem. I've had it with needing to provide sources every two seconds, as if I should have to take measures for every statement I make. Are you aware of Google? USE IT.
The burden of proof rest on the one making the claim. It isn't the job of the skeptic, to verify someone else claim. Surely you know this? This is basic rhetoric skills.
 
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The burden of proof rest on the one making the claim. It isn't the job of the skeptic, to verify someone else claim. Surely you know this? This is basic rhetoric skills.

The burden of ignorance is the one who prefers not to know what the other person knows. It is not the job of the enlightened to secure the 'skeptic'. If you want to remain skeptical, that is your own choice. The remedy is a place called Google. I'm done with the consistent derail into having to provide a source every time I say the sky is blue.

I've brought this up before and this is the last time. I don't provide sources for things I don't feel are necessary to go out of the way to do, or if it's not going to break through some ridiculous denial complex.
 
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You're dreaming if you think I'm going to take time out of my day to dig up such incidents you're too lazy to do yourself.
Be ignorant of it, that's your problem. I've had it with needing to provide sources every two seconds, as if I should have to take measures for every statement I make just to prove it to people shutting their eyes and ears. Are you aware of Google? USE IT.
No one needs to believe anything you say if you can't be bothered to prove it.
 
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No one needs to believe anything you say if you can't be bothered to prove it.

Who said I cared if someone believes it? If a person wants to simply look away from a claim and just move along in ignorance than that is certainly a problem, but not my problem.
After enough times of seeing things like me providing a source debunking a myth, like with the feminist wage gap, and seeing it repeated anyway, or preferring to simply call a source false when a person doesn't like it and call there's better, I choose not to perpetuate that ridiculousness. I'm not going to sit here and provide a source that someone can find out in a few minutes of their own time, just to burden me in a discussion. You all can just go on with all that, it's nothing more than sly harassment.
 
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You're dreaming if you think I'm going to take time out of my day to dig up such incidents you're too lazy to do yourself.
Be ignorant of it, that's your problem. I've had it with needing to provide sources every two seconds, as if I should have to take measures for every statement I make just to prove it to people shutting their eyes and ears. Are you aware of Google? USE IT.

You are dreaming if you think others are going to believe everything you say at face value, if you can't support your claims.

You have a tendency to make claims, then get perturbed, if people ask you to support them. That tells us something.
 
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The burden of ignorance is the one who prefers not to know what the other person knows. It is not the job of the enlightened to secure the 'skeptic'. If you want to remain skeptical, that is your own choice. The remedy is a place called Google. I'm done with the consistent derail into having to provide a source every time I say the sky is blue.

I've brought this up before and this is the last time. I don't provide sources for things I don't feel are necessary to go out of the way to do, or if it's not going to break through some ridiculous denial complex.
Lols, I tried Googling it, but all I got was references to gay marriage in the UK and your own comment in this thread.
 
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You're dreaming if you think I'm going to take time out of my day to dig up such incidents you're too lazy to do yourself.
Be ignorant of it, that's your problem. I've had it with needing to provide sources every two seconds, as if I should have to take measures for every statement I make just to prove it to people shutting their eyes and ears. Are you aware of Google? USE IT.

Used it. Found nothing.

Safe to say at this point that you're making it all up.
 
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From an American's perspective, the UK is slowly growing as intolerant to Christianity as China has been.

I'm an American, and I don't believe that at all. Speak for yourself.
 
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Please, tell us more....


...especially considering that Christianity is England's official state religion... but who am I to let facts get in the way of a good screed?
 
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You're dreaming if you think I'm going to take time out of my day to dig up such incidents you're too lazy to do yourself.
Be ignorant of it, that's your problem. I've had it with needing to provide sources every two seconds, as if I should have to take measures for every statement I make just to prove it to people shutting their eyes and ears. Are you aware of Google? USE IT.

Translation: I made something up, got called on it, and now I'm going to act all incensed in order to change the topic to how the people who called me on it are lazy.
 
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I think the same red cups, are being used at Starbucks in Europe, but the only outrage, is in America.
You have to realize that to many Christians in America, Europe has been overrun by Muslims and the US is the last hope for Christianity and it's snowmen decorated cups. It's no wonder nobody's complained over there.

And also Europe is apparently some sort of depraved socialist cesspool where things are terrible and cakes are baked for gay people in a non-judgmental fashion.

The Starbucks cup controversy is not something I agree with, but it does show that Americans pay attention for better or worse. It's not the cup, but the company's reasoning for doing away with the cup, that should be noted.

What was the reasoning, exactly?
 
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