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Something doesn't feel right about BLM

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Seen videos on YouTube people saying they are paid protesters. Political congressmen and senators. The President said there were paid protesters.
The president said so? LOL.
 
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OK. Fair enough. I wonder how many of your fellow parishioners in your church are paid to be there. This also seems like an important topic to cover as well. It surely must be some amount, right?
Not that I know of.
 
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The president said so? LOL.
The Republican elected leaders have been saying they are being attacked by paid protesters for a few years now. What if this is true? What if this is all about America declaring soveignity at UN? The schemes may or may not be true. If you research the vatican mace, once in the hands of Hitler, now in Senate house. What do you think that really means? Throughout history the mace was symbolic of the military arm of the Roman Catholic Church. I have no idea but when confronted with these facts there is more going on than meets the eye.
 
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No is not over. Am praying God gives us Christians more time to witness.
When I hear Christians say this, I hear " I'm not ready for Jesus to come back."
 
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When I hear Christians say this, I hear " I'm not ready for Jesus to come back."
I am ready, however there is a lot of people who don't know Him. God is not willing that any should perish, but that all would come to repentance.
 
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The Republican elected leaders have been saying they are being attacked by paid protesters for a few years now. What if this is true? What if this is all about America declaring soveignity at UN? The schemes may or may not be true. If you research the vatican mace, once in the hands of Hitler, now in Senate house. What do you think that really means? Throughout history the mace was symbolic of the military arm of the Roman Catholic Church. I have no idea but when confronted with these facts there is more going on than meets the eye.
As Christians we just need to love others as ourselves, including our perceived enemies, who may or may not perceive us as enemies. We don't need to speculate whether there is reason to not trust anybody. I believe this goes to what is the meaning of being pure of heart.
 
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I am ready, however there is a lot of people who don't know Him. God is not willing that any should perish, but that all would come to repentance.
On the contrary:
Rev.22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
 
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Not that I know of.

Did you check to make sure? I mean, you're doing due diligence on others I would hate for you to miss the beam in thine own eye while looking for the mote in another's.
 
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No is not over. Am praying God gives us Christians more time to witness.

A good witness for Christ's love, I should think, would be to go to the man set upon and attacked in the road and ask him how we can help...not ask him if he's being paid to lay here on the road beaten up.
 
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You are a Christian so this should make very good sense. Here's how I think about it.

Think of systemic racism as a form of "original sin". Those of us who are white in the USA are born into a system that has long existed which benefits white people to the detriment of black people. We are all born and raised in a system that has existed long before we were around.

NOW: the value of "apologizing for being white" is NOT one of simple "mortification of our ego" but rather an acceptance that we have benefited from this system and it is our natural state to want to continue that system which benefits us...and that in order to make changes we must accept that we have thus benefited so that we might be able to give up some of those benefits so others may have them.

The first step toward salvation is accepting that we are all sinners.

Does that make sense? I'm not saying all of us white people are evil horrible lynch mobs...but we DO have advantages granted us solely due to our skin color. And even if we don't always appreciate those advantages we DO get them. Our goal then is to ensure that ALL people get those advantages.

We are "trying", obviously, but clearly not enough. Or we wouldn't be here now having this conversation.



I agree that we shouldn't attack police character. But, again, my lived experience as a cis white male is very different from that of others.



When corporations jump in it can definitely feel that way. But, by the same token, it is also an accession that their customer is more than just a white face. That they must reach out. NOW, whether they make it more than "slogan" or virtue signal is when the rubber meets the road.



The BLM movement is just fine. It's an agreement we must make that black lives, indeed, matter just as much as white lives. And that's a noble goal for a country that has seen fit to treat black bodies as second class citizens for as long as the USA has.
I get what you are saying but not all white privilege is distributed equally. Neither is racism distributed equally. I will go so far to say that some blacks have more privilege than some whites. The greatest privilege that I see in most of America, is what I would call "pretty privilege." If one is toned and good looking, you will have access to jobs and favor that others will never have. I am not sure how anyone can reconcile who really has privilege versus those who do not.
 
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I will go so far to say that some blacks have more privilege than some whites.

I'm far more interested in statistically valid analyses, not anecdotal cases. Systemic racism is the real problem I'm most concerned with in regards to what I _might_ have a chance of impacting as a regular person.

The greatest privilege that I see in most of America, is what I would call "pretty privilege." If one is toned and good looking, you will have access to jobs and favor that others will never have. I am not sure how anyone can reconcile who really has privilege versus those who do not.

It's pretty easy with statistics.
 
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There are international charges levied against this man, and countries around the world that want him drug before a court in chains. For everything from election meddling to seditious conspiracy. He is the bankroll behind many regime changes, a genuinely dangerous man.

You might even say a boogeyman.

My point was that people in general have no conception as to what they have connected themselves to, with their participating in marches sponsored by the likes of BLM.

they should investigate what the BLM movement is all about first. because BLM is a very catchy phrase isn't it?

And my point is that what it's "all about" has no clear definition anymore.
 
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I will go so far to say that some blacks have more privilege than some whites.
The operative word being “some”.
The greatest privilege that I see in most of America, is what I would call "pretty privilege." If one is toned and good looking, you will have access to jobs and favor that others will never have. I am not sure how anyone can reconcile who really has privilege versus those who do not.
We handsome, gorgeous people are favored. But the less beautiful resent us.
 
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Just putting out the information you do not have.
There is a video on Utube where she says these exact words, I don't know how to give you the link, but you could go to Utube for yourself ad find it easily, this interview was posted 2 days ago.

"We actually do have an ideological frame... we are trained Marxists." - Patrisse Cullors, Co-Founder, #BlackLivesMatter
This one? Just copy what's in the address bar and paste it here.
 
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A little more research would tell you that these are just as likely to serve a conservative rally as a liberal one. It also is too legit to get too deep in an event where violence can erupt.
The “agitators” are more likely part of extreme groups or ideologies, which are on all sides.
 
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And my point is that what it's "all about" has no clear definition anymore.

Further clarification.

I was responding to your post, the people never ever did have control over the organization to which they connected themselves, they did not have and do not have any Idea as to what organization they are following.
 
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Further clarification.

I was responding to your post, the people never ever did have control over the organization to which they connected themselves, they did not have and do not have any Idea as to what organization they are following.

That's because there is no one central 'organization'.
 
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