Gracchus
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Hello, have not been to CF in many months. I was pursuing my recreational hobby during the warm summer months of gold mining.
My hobby has shown me firsthand things that to me directly contradict the concept of evolution, and also the dating system that is the foundation that the whole house of cards of evolution rests upon.
So what would those things be?
1.) Polystrate Trees
You could just Google "Polystrate fossil"
Polystrate fossil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
2.) Extremely deep gravel deposits (600 feet deep) buried within Sierra mountaintops.
Please provide stratigraphic maps of the deposits and overlying strata.
3.) Reports of bones and fossils in those gravel deposits of species not common to this continent.
You do know, don't you that some species. like camels and horses, originated in North America and migrated to Asia, only to become extinct in North America about the time when man arrived?
4.) Discovery of long extinct species in those same gravel deposits.
Is there some reason that you know that the gravel deposits could not be old, or that the fossils could not have been washed into the gravel from still older sedimentary deposits?
5.) Report of Human skull found in same deposits by the most noted geologist of the time.
Citation please!
6.) Probability that these gravel deposits were as a result of a worlwide flood.
There is no evidence of a world-wide flood, although if it happened there ought to be.
7.) Direct evidence found in old mining reports that bolster the worlwide flood theory.
Citations please!
8.) Coarse gold and coincident lode gold veins found within well round placer gravel deposits that can not be explained as being from some massive anceint river, Quite to the contrary, there is no plausible explanation to support any alternative theory other than a rapid chaotic event such as a flood. I have studied old mining reports for decades. The reports of the early miners are well documented and plentiful that contain this information. I have found similar stories even within the geologic community and many that are even contemporary.
And where would well rounded gravel be formed but in some ancient river?!
So what would I cast into this discussion?
Within a historic mining tunnel of a good friend of mine is an enigma. His mine starts through solid rock (quartz) for hundreds of feet horizontally. At some poit the nature of the tunnel turns into being a cemented type of rounded gravels that was what the old miners were finding gold mix within. But at the end of this mine deep inside a mountain (maybe 800 to 1000 feet from the surface).....there are huge rounded river boulders and massive deposits of gravel. Water freely circulates through this placer gold bearing gravel layer. Even within the solid rock portions of the mine water seeps through cracks and fissures. At the far deepest end of the tunnel one sees a 50 foot deep shaft going down that clearly shows the boulders I mentioned. But at the top of the 50 foot deep shaft the enigma lies exposed slapping you in the face. there is a portion of the tunnel wall of which appears to be a hard rock deposit of some sort. Look closely and you see angular fragments well mixed troughout this apparent type of hard rock. Within this "rock" are pieces of sinuous or stringy blackened tree bark sticking out in various places. The appearance of the bark is quite obviously redwood, and in remarkably good condition. You can pull this material free and feel the intact fibers in your fingers. This material sits on top of those huge rounded river boulders keep in mind. That hard rock deposit has very distinct sharply angular fragments. Miners noticed and puzzled about these anomalies when they encountered them. I have questioned many miners up in that region and they all have stories to tell like this one, and the sort of odd occurrences they saw with their own eyes. Many believe in the flood because of what they have witnessed in their time of mining. This is not somebody sitting around daydreaming about mind fantasies. These guys were within the bowels of the earth witnessing in situ things that test the sensibility of those that witness them. The old mining reports contain the exact same things I have talked to modern day lifetime miners about. Reality....real people....real things....things that throw serious doubt on evolution and the flawed assumption of time dating that it rests upon.
How can modern geology explain away this anomaly? Those tree bark pieces sticking out of hard rock are billions of years old with water percolating through them?
I would need at the very least, a geologic map of the area. I suspect that his horizontal tunnel dug through the granitic rock that underlies the Sierra Nevada into a sedimentary rock filled channel cut by a river.
Come on put on your thinking caps now.
Common sense has to be used for this to be explained away.
Tree bark that is billions of years old? I can't wait to hear this one.........
How was the bark dated? How were the sedimentary rocks in which it was found dated?
Angular formed rock on top of huge roun river boulders buried a 1000 feet inside a Sierra mountain top.....
Boulders are rounded in a river, and then covered by a landslide of angular boulders. I have seen such with my own eyes, and that was in a mere summer school geology course in high school.
Come on I want to hear about that ancient river that left 600 deep gravel deposits in its wake....
The Nile has a sediment filled channel that is nearly a mile deep, cut when the Mediterranean Sea had dried up after being cut off from the Atlantic. (This happened several times.)
Come on let's engage some common sense now....
Common sense indicates that those who have spent years studying geology probably have a better sense of geological processes than you do, especially since you can't see explanations for your "anomalies" that are well known and well documented.
You have a ... vivid imagination ... and a ... possibly inflated ... opinion of your own knowledge and cleverness.That worldwide flood doesn't seem to be that impossible now eh?

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