Solution to the creation/evolution debate...?

[AV1611VET]

You were about to explain why it's on our money ...

So you'd know Whom to trust?

(Yes, I know. You have trouble differentiating theological truths ... but still.)

 

[ottawak]

So you'd know Whom to trust?

(Yes, I know. You have trouble differentiating theological truths ... but still.)

Maybe, but we don't have any difficullty differentiating theological motives from political motives.

 

[TLK Valentine]

So you'd know Whom to trust?

(Yes, I know. You have trouble differentiating theological truths ... but still.)

By your own admission, there's only one true God -- and it's the God of capitalism.

 

[AV1611VET]

By your own admission, there's only one true God -- and it's the God of capitalism.

QV please: 719

 

[TLK Valentine]

QV please: 719

You were bluffing then; you're bluffing now.

A real god would have issue with that -- but the God of Capitalism approves.

 

[FullMoon]

Some of these things can be seen on home ground based telescopes.

I've seen Jupiter and its moons through a conventional telescope with my own eyes.

I think you're confused with what I've said. My response was to:
"So no mars explorers, no satellites, no space telescopes?"
You won't see those with your telescope.

 

[FullMoon]

why?
All those scientists are conspiring to cover that evolution is false? And yet they use evolution to continue making discover and furthering our knowledge knowing that they’re wrong?
You should prove scientifically that the theory of evolution is invalid. Then you’ll get to go to Sweden and meet the king.
Truth: The Theory of Evolution is a valid scientific theory meeting all of the criteria of such.
Or you also believe that the special and general theories of relativity, germ theory, atomic theory, kinetic theory of gases, etc are invalid?

The scientists have been indoctrinated into a false sense of reality to begin with. They just continue to build on top of that. So most don't even know that their foundations is incorrect. A lot of science is either invalid or incomplete. So many theories; and they stay as such because they can't stand the test in reality. Of course opposing views to what is accepted is shunned and censored.

 

[Hans Blaster]

The scientists have been indoctrinated into a false sense of reality to begin with. They just continue to build on top of that.

Oh, we have now..., sure. (roll eyes)

So most don't even know that their foundations is incorrect.

Which foundations do I no know are "incorrect".

A lot of science is either invalid or incomplete. So many theories; and they stay as such because they can't stand the test in reality. Of course opposing views to what is accepted is shunned and censored.

You just don't have any idea what you are talking about do you?

 

[Shemjaza]

I think you're confused with what I've said. My response was to:
"So no mars explorers, no satellites, no space telescopes?"
You won't see those with your telescope.

I said "some", because satellites and space telescopes can be seen from the ground... obviously we can't see exactly what a space telescope can see, but the concept of telescopes is perfectly sound and consistent with what we can see and touch as ordinary people on the ground.

(Then again, the shape and size of the Earth can also be determined without advanced technology, and that's also in dispute).

 

[Shemjaza]

The scientists have been indoctrinated into a false sense of reality to begin with. They just continue to build on top of that. So most don't even know that their foundations is incorrect. A lot of science is either invalid or incomplete. So many theories; and they stay as such because they can't stand the test in reality. Of course opposing views to what is accepted is shunned and censored.

Do you have any specific examples?

 

[Hans Blaster]

(Then again, the shape and size of the Earth can also be determined without advanced technology, and that's also in dispute).

Only by fools and delusional people.

 

[FullMoon]

Do you have any specific examples?

Gravity comes to mind.
When one understands that earth is actually flat; heaven is above and earth is below. Density and buoyancy is sufficient to explain the up and down movements of things. Less dense things go up and high dense things go down as each finds its own level. The insistence of gravity is simply to explain things on a "global" earth and a heliocentric model of the "universe". It should be obvious that gravity is simply taken as an obvious thing in the scientific community; and this of course has many theories related to it. Some examples I've found after a quick search:
- Field theories of gravitation
- Gravitational fields and the theory of general relativity
- The paths of particles and light
- Gravitational radiation
So a non-existent force has been created in people's minds, which has many theories thought up that depend on its existence, all because of a false perception of the world. People are indoctrinated into accepting this false perception of the world, causing them to believe in the existence of gravity, then thinking up many theories regarding it.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Gravity comes to mind.
When one understands that earth is actually flat; heaven is above and earth is below.

And with that, I'm officially calling "Poe" on this one...

 

[Shemjaza]

Gravity comes to mind.
When one understands that earth is actually flat; heaven is above and earth is below. Density and buoyancy is sufficient to explain the up and down movements of things. Less dense things go up and high dense things go down as each finds its own level. The insistence of gravity is simply to explain things on a "global" earth and a heliocentric model of the "universe". It should be obvious that gravity is simply taken as an obvious thing in the scientific community; and this of course has many theories related to it. Some examples I've found after a quick search:
- Field theories of gravitation
- Gravitational fields and the theory of general relativity
- The paths of particles and light
- Gravitational radiation
So a non-existent force has been created in people's minds, which has many theories thought up that depend on its existence, all because of a false perception of the world. People are indoctrinated into accepting this false perception of the world, causing them to believe in the existence of gravity, then thinking up many theories regarding it.

But that doesn't explain anything.

Why do less dense things go up?

Why do objects all fall at the same rate in a vacuum?

Why are other objects in the Solar system spheres with orbits if the Earth is flat?

The laws of gravity were determined to define what we could observe... the theory of gravity is the explanation for those facts.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Some people see money, other people see a moto. I see a GRAVEN IMAGE of President Thomas Jefferson, probably not the best President to use considering the topic.

 

[Astrid]

But that doesn't explain anything.

Why do less dense things go up?

Why do objects all fall at the same rate in a vacuum?

Why are other objects in the Solar system spheres with orbits if the Earth is flat?

The laws of gravity were determined to define what we could observe... the theory of gravity is the explanation for those facts.

You do know - dont you, the ancient Greeks did -of the
two opposing forces of gravity and levity?

 

[AV1611VET]

-- but the God of Capitalism approves.

You talking about this guy?

Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

 

[AV1611VET]

Some people see money, other people see a moto. I see a GRAVEN IMAGE of President Thomas Jefferson, probably not the best President to use considering the topic.

I realize that.

But the context of the conversation should dictate what to focus on.

 

[TLK Valentine]

You talking about this guy?

Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Thanks for the QED -- if "In God We Trust" isn't on your precious money, good luck trying to use it to buy or sell.

 

[AV1611VET]

Thanks for the QED -- if "In God We Trust" isn't on your precious money, good luck trying to use it to buy or sell.

I believe we accept Canadian currency as well.

But don't focus on the money, focus on the slogan.

I could have just as easily posted this:

But then you'd be harping on stone, wouldn't you?

Or this:

But then you'd be harping on metal, wouldn't you?