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I have never broken down and cried and then beaten myself up to the point where my whole day is ruined, because I missed going to church. No, that's not normal, my friend.Your first post is exactly right, Geek. I am interested in someone compatible & right. If she's not the right one, it WON'T work. I understand that & would be willing to SAY NO myself. Just like when picking friends. Just like any other kind of relationship.
For your 3rd post, you never had a time where you made a mistake & got upset at yourself about it? Why would I not be able to handle a relationship? I have lots of relationships, just not that kind.
You never have a dream or project, put it to the side, & then after a time realize no progress has been made on the dream or project?
Meeting your future spouse is not a project. It's an event that happens once. You have no idea when you might walk around a corner and bump into her. Instead of spiraling into despair that it hasn't happened yet, focus on what you can be doing now, in the time that you're waiting, to become the man she deserves.Comes from years & years of no progress on this.
As a woman, I can tell you that being obsessed with "meeting singles/girls/women" and falling into despair over small things, like missing church, are things you're doing wrong, and these would immediately put me off from being interested in a man.I think that until I am able to meet singles more consistently, it's impossible to tell what I am doing right or wrong.
Then I am a failureInability to accommodate to situation or repeating the same failing strategy again and again is not a good mindset.
Fine, then you are a failure. And? What next? Get up and fight. Defeatist mindset will not get you anywhere.Then I am a failure
We can feel it through your posts. Trust me, women feel it when they're physically around you, too.Also, I'm pretty sure I don't give off desperation. I'm not really meeting singles in person so how do I give off desperation to turn them away when I'm not even meeting them?? & conversation rarely goes to talk about dating w/ my network, so not there either, nope (aside from a really good friend, but that's it, & we just talk about it privately)
I saw a secular psychologist a couple times. I thought it was pretty useless. Just keep expanding your network, it’ll happen when it happens, blah blah blah.We can feel it through your posts. Trust me, women feel it when they're physically around you, too.
Find a professional to talk to, please.
Pastors - for all their good intentions - aren't equipped to deal with complex psychological, personality, and behavioral issues. Since you only saw one secular psychologist "a couple of times", I'd highly recommend considering finding another, more helpful one.I saw a secular psychologist a couple times. I thought it was pretty useless. Just keep expanding your network, it’ll happen when it happens, blah blah blah.
I talk to a pastor when it gets really bad.
There really isn't anything they can do. They can't force love.Pastors - for all their good intentions - aren't equipped to deal with complex psychological, personality, and behavioral issues. Since you only saw one secular psychologist "a couple of times", I'd highly recommend considering finding another, more helpful one.
It's not a counselor's job to force love into your life. You said that you'd seen one secular counselor a couple of times, and that was it. That is not giving professional counseling a fair chance to help you. Now, if you're going to simply repeat that it won't work and it's pointless and it's dumb and it's a waste, and wallow in your misery, that is your choice. The fact remains that there is help out there for you. You can choose to reach out for it and be willing to work to improve your life and your mental state, or you can choose to sit where you are and continue to complain about how unfair everything is.There really isn't anything they can do. They can't force love.
They say nonsense like 'join a church'. 'okay already am.'
'go to Sunday School.' 'Already do.'
'Get to know them. 'Already do.'
'Go to meetup groups.' 'Already do.'
'Get a job.' 'Already do.'
'Get your finances in order.' 'Already are.'
'Try dating sites.' 'Useless.'
'Try asking a coworker.' 'There's not any.'
'Try different churches.' 'You're not supposed to & it's all of the same'
'Do stuff with friends.' 'Already do.'
'Do stuff with neighbors.' 'Already do.'
'Oh okay, it'll happen when it happens. Just keep trying. You're still young. You're only 30. Maybe come back wen you're 50.'
It's a waste. It's why I also find your 'put in some work' comment in the other
thread a little short-sighted of the situation at hand.
It's just dumb. At what ponit does it become I have to be single my whole life & there's nothing I can do to change it???? What am I supposed to be doing, Last? Where am I going wrong??? It's absolutely frustrating. It's like I've done everything I've supposed to & I still can't find the one. No neighbor. No one at church. No one at work. No friend of a friend. No one ever has a niece. No one ever says 'hey did you meet X girl who's single?' Nope, never. Nunca! I'm sorry I sound so bitter & upset but I'm completely clueless & stuck what I'm supposed to be doing different. It's like I've checked every box on the 'how to get a girlfriend & get married' list & never happened.
That reminds me, I used to have an old thread here on this. This may be a lot of new information for you. But we discussed this in an old thread. I can post the link to it & you can review it.
I am unclear how a secular counselor would make a difference? I talked to the pastor tonight. I found & find him very helpful. That's why I talk to him. There's really not that much more I can be doing right now that I'm not. The secular counselor agreed. It's just a matter of being patient. It happens or it doesn't in season. Per you in the other thread.It's not a counselor's job to force love into your life. You said that you'd seen one secular counselor a couple of times, and that was it. That is not giving professional counseling a fair chance to help you. Now, if you're going to simply repeat that it won't work and it's pointless and it's dumb and it's a waste, and wallow in your misery, that is your choice. The fact remains that there is help out there for you. You can choose to reach out for it and be willing to work to improve your life and your mental state, or you can choose to sit where you are and continue to complain about how unfair everything is.
Bottom line: There's help. It's up to you to choose to take it, or not.
No and thats not something you should feel like.Does anyone ever feel like they’re in high school & their parents won’t allow them to date? That’s what I feel like.