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Instead of swimming in emotions, create a rational plan for your change.
I'm not even really meeting singles. Groups tend to have 12-2 guy:girl ratios (where one of the girls is married) & guy friends never lead anywhere to women. I wish I could tell you how interactions w/ singles tends to go but situations are few & far between.
 
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I'm not even really meeting singles. Groups tend to have 12-2 guy:girl ratios (where one of the girls is married) & guy friends never lead anywhere to women. I wish I could tell you how interactions w/ singles tends to go but situations are few & far between.
I am talking about your health and happiness, not about your dating.
 
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I am sad today. I don't want to do anything. What's the point? I feel so horrible. Even other late-bloomers I know are starting to get dates & girlfriends now that they're in their 20's & 30's. :(
I am talking about your health and happiness, not about your dating.
What kind of plan?
Exercising -> already do. Not the string bean I was anymore
Finances -> not a problem. Have my own place
How I spend time: Work all day. Just hang out at home w/ friends on Saturdays (watch movies, play card games, go for walks). Hang out w/ family on Sundays. Church + Sunday School every couple Sundays.
Yes, I am a nerd, unfortunately. & unfortunately I'm the bad kind -> more interested in learning than video games fpr example. Hardly play video games at all

I generally consider myself haappy & healthy. It's just this one issue I struggle w/ & get frustrated, upset, sad, etc. about. Dating sites - useless. Meet-up groups - useless. Sunday school - useless. No one at work, no neighbors, no one ever has a friend or sister or cousin. It's pretty ridiculous considering 1/2 of the 20's 30's I s/b meeting s/b women. At this point I'm not sure what I s/b doing?
 
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I am sad today. I don't want to do anything. What's the point? I feel so horrible...

I want the day to be over. This is not a good day....

I generally consider myself haappy & healthy.
I cannot say you are healthy. Considering your other posts, for example #95, I think its safe to say you have some mental problem, at least.

So, my advice is still the same - you need to fix yourself, first. Also your "only" problem, the dating problem, seems to be a kind of obsession, which is another mental problem to solve (by finding the peace in singleness).
 
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I cannot say you are healthy. Considering your other posts, for example #95, I think its safe to say you have some mental problem, at least.

So, my advice is still the same - you need to fix yourself, first. Also your "only" problem, the dating problem, seems to be a kind of obsession, which is another mental problem to solve (by finding the peace in singleness).
Everyone has bad days

Why do I need to find peace in singleness? Evidently everyone who got married couldn't find peace in singleness
 
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I think it's silly to think finding peace helps in finding wife
You think its silly, but you do not seem to be successful, so maybe its not so silly. Why would a good woman want to be with somebody who is publicly crying like that. Be realistic.
 
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I am sorry for hijacking thread all, especially to OP. I wasn't expecting to fall into such a negative spiral these past few days.
You think its silly, but you do not seem to be successful, so maybe its not so silly. Why would a good woman want to be with somebody who is publicly crying like that. Be realistic.
B/c I've gone thru periods of peace & it never goes anywhere. Then a day like a few days ago happens & it makes me realize peace only brought me wasted time.
 
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B/c I've gone thru periods of peace & it never goes anywhere. Then a day like a few days ago happens & it makes me realize peace only brought me wasted time.
Do not waste it, then. Fill it with something useful. As I said earlier, do not wait for a woman to live your life.
 
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I can understand needing to learn how to be content single b/c you are single. But it seems contradictory to me when people tell me you'll never be happy married if you're not happy being single:
If you're happy being single, there's no point in getting married. All these people who got married wouldn't have if they liked being single. Me who's been single their whole life knows how to be content single more than someone who got married at 22 or 18 did.
I've been very content the past 5 months. What did it get me? Nada. If anything being content hurts my chances getting married because I'm less likely to work for it. I'm less likely to want it. If I don't want it, I'm not going to pursue it. If someone doesn't work towards their dream, they're not going to get it. To me saying not to worry about it is the equivalent of saying give up.
Here's the thing. Happiness comes and goes. It is largely dependent on circumstances. It is NOT the same as contentment.

People don't get married because they're miserable, and want to become happy. If they do, they're doing it for the wrong reasons, and the marriage is likely doomed from the outset. A spouse is not the solution or cure to a single person's inner damage, scars, baggage, and issues. All you'll do is become a drain on the other person, because you didn't come into the relationship as a whole, healthy, functional, strong individual, with enough well-being of body, mind, and soul to take care of not only yourself, but another human being. Marriages are partnerships, not "SAVE ME, I'M LONELY". Well, ideally, anyway. Lots of people get married because they're lonely, desperate, and needy; and they usually end up divorced and then they have the trauma of that on top of everything they started out with. If you think finding a woman when you're a depressed, lonely, insecure single person is hard, try finding one when you're a depressed, lonely, insecure divorcee, possibly with children and custody issues in the mix.

Here's another truth that countless men can't seem to grasp (for reasons I've yet to understand): Women aren't robots. We aren't computer programs. We don't have an algorithm that you just need to figure out in order to push the right buttons in the right order, and BAM! a girl is in love with you. We're individual people, and we're all attracted to different traits in men. I see sooooo many men who aren't looking for a partner, they just want "a girl" or "a woman". As if they aren't even looking for an entire human being, with a personality, a past, dreams, needs, flaws, hopes, habits. Just this sort of animated thing with the right body parts, who'll laugh at their jokes and make them feel good all the time and never require anything in return. Get that thinking out of your head ASAP. You don't want "a" woman, you want the right woman who will not only complement your life, but YOU will complement HERS. Think about what YOU bring to the table. No, not your jawline or your bank account. Your decency. Your honesty. Your self respect. Your treatment of other people. Your inner strength. Your work ethic. Your ability to be selfless without being self pitying. Do you have these things, and in enough quantity that you can give them away to another person, every day, for years and years? When you can answer "yes", then start thinking about a serious relationship, and not with just "a woman", but someone who likes you, respects you, appreciates you, and who feels easy and natural to be around. If it's awkward or forced, it's not the right person or time.

"I've been very content the past 5 months, what did it get me?" Well, if this is how you're looking at it, you weren't actually content, were you.

"If anything being content hurts my chances getting married because I'm less likely to work for it. I'm less likely to want it. If I don't want it, I'm not going to pursue it." This is wrong thinking, my friend. You don't work for "marriage", you work for the person that you like and fall in love with. If you haven't met her yet, then of course you don't need to worry about working on marrying her or anyone else. You need to work on YOU, and becoming the best version of yourself that you can be. So that when you do meet her, you're in the best possible place - physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and financially - to present yourself as a potential, long-term partner. So just live your life. That's how we meet people - by simply living. And don't be constantly eyeing every woman who passes by and grilling yourself internally on how to assess her as a potential interest. That's gross. Just live. Be a happy, chill, content single dude. THAT is what's attractive to women.
 
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In the modern world anything that looks like desperation or clinginess will be a turn off for a lot of women. I think it's probably true as well that women are increasingly avoiding men that seem emotionally unstable. More or less, woman want a man that can be their "rock", strong and reliable. Some women may value humor more than others, or have different hobbies, etc. but it seems the most consistent thing they value is confidence.
This, this, this, and this.
 
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I feel like a failure. I made a BIG mistake this morning. I slept in too late. I can't make it to church. I can't even be late. I am in tears. It sialed by & I missed it. I am a failure. If I can't even make it to church for the morning, why on Earth should God expect me to be able to care for a wife. I can't even make a sacrifice to go to church for a morning, what'll I do when I have to sacrifice some time to care for a wife. I'll never be able to date & get married. I messed up. God can't trust me. A woman wouldn't be able to either. God knows this. I can't date & get married now.
No disrespect, but if you can't handle missing church without breaking down, you absolutely cannot handle a relationship with another person.

I really think you should consider finding some professional help to work on what seems to be fairly serious issues of low self esteem and an inability to handle disappointments.
 
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Your first post is exactly right, Geek. I am interested in someone compatible & right. If she's not the right one, it WON'T work. I understand that & would be willing to SAY NO myself. Just like when picking friends. Just like any other kind of relationship.

For your 3rd post, you never had a time where you made a mistake & got upset at yourself about it? Why would I not be able to handle a relationship? I have lots of relationships, just not that kind.
Do not waste it, then. Fill it with something useful. As I said earlier, do not wait for a woman to live your life.
You never have a dream or project, put it to the side, & then after a time realize no progress has been made on the dream or project?
 
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You never have a dream or project, put it to the side, & then after a time realize no progress has been made on the dream or project?
I do not know, but surely not so emotionally as you do. You need to build up your personal emotional stability. If something, this should be your dream and project.
 
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I do not know, but surely not so emotionally as you do. You need to build up your personal emotional stability.
Comes from years & years of no progress on this.
 
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Comes from years & years of no progress on this.
If you have put a goal for yourself which you are not able to achieve and it makes your life painful, change the goal.

If you are only loosing in a game, stop playing.

Etc.
 
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If you have put a goal for yourself which you are not able to achieve and it makes your life painful, change the goal.

If you are only loosing in a game, stop playing.

Etc.
What???? No!
 
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