Simple Question, or maybe not

[b&wpac4]

So am I ever going to get the evidence that for two hundred years after the death of Jesus, every time they got the chance Jews ran crazy and slaughtered as many Christians as they could get their hands on?

 

[Judgment]

Have you read the Bible? If not, your ''proof'' resides there and is confirmed by the reality of today. Israel exists, the prophetic economic global system exists and the weapons that now exist, nuclear, bio and chemical exist.It is possible to destroy all flesh as it is possible now to kill as many people in past wars with an exchange of weapons of mass destruction between enemies in the East and the West.

It is written, the leaders of nations leading up to the point of the prophetic false peace that will be broken, they are given strong delusion, not because they are ordained by the Holy Spirit but because, they have not the Holy Spirit and do their own will, All nations are consumed by the wine of wrath in the cup of fornication, they are drunk off of the labor of the harvest and are inflated to the point where their cup overflows with their corruption. Inflation and debt places a mark upon labor, this is defined by a measure of wheat for a penny, the black horse. See that you look up the proof for yourself in the Bible. If you do not accept what is written therein, the Holy Spirit is not with you but, the offer remains before you, open up the book of life and witness the name of mercy, may it be sealed upon you. Fear not, go with God in Christ or just an open heart when you seek out confirmation in the word. Use the awesome tool, the computer and do a search. You shall find the proof.

KJV Bible Verse List : Strong Delusion

Wow! I must thank you for your post, let me tell you why. This morning I was looking at CNBC Squawk Box, they did a report on the fact that the dairy farmers are losing $7 for every $10 dollars of production and are slaughtering cows because of deflation. They projected a ridiculous hike in prices and the futures are reflecting this fact. Well, as I was inspired to bring up some random posts to help you along, my first search was general, usually I type in Bible Gateway or another sight that brings up verses but, the first link I looked up just happened to have milk prices on it. Just before I clicked on this sight and saw your post, I was trying to bring up the Squawk Box report but it's either too early because the report just happened or what ever. I had been searching the net a little to try and find the data they gave on the show because I did not write it down. The price projection for milk was that stunning. The existing contango in commodities like milk and oil is amazing and prophetic. If there was a relatively quick recovery, the supply and demand ratio would cause price hikes and shortages in milk in the future or an increase in demand destruction do to inflation. No matter how you look at it, the world market is inverted and flooded with debt
Prophezine - Bible Prophecy & World Events: He Rides a Black Horse

BibleGateway.com - PassageLookup: Luke 17:26-30;;

Daniel 8:25 He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.

The Antichrist Beast!

Daniel 5:25 "This is the inscription that was written: MENE, MENE, TEKEL, PARSIN

This is an interesting article. In it there is a section that defines a unit of measure in a counter weight use for the tribute paid in the region. 666-668 comes up. This is related to counter weights used in the region and the coins use to pay comes into play. The numbered, weighed and divided writing on the wall may be come clear to you.
Full text of "Weights and balances"
NETBible: Luke 2:1
Check out the lion of Babylon counter weight Money, Weights, and Measures in Antiquity
Check out the mark of the beast
Baal Coins - Ba'al Coins - Mazaios Coins - Mazaeus Coins Mark 12:16 They brought the coin, and he asked them, "Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?" "Caesar's," they replied.
Check out the saddle on the Lion Of Babylon, wonder what the woman riding in the saddle represents? Look it up, you may see more than a goddess, you may see the labor of a harlot, like Horus rising, the Antichrist people sealed by the mark of the beast may become clear to you.
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Roman Currency of the Principate
Naval Campaign Rules for Naumachiae

BibleGateway.com - PassageLookup: Revelation 13: 16-17;

Who's mark represents an ancient Egyptian Tomb and a picture of a Presidential Mason? Funny, a tomb does not represent me and I am not a Mason and the dollar as the reserve currency of the world insures that all persons that buy sell and trade are subject to the mark of it's inflation. Ironic? Ordained? Holy? Maybe not so simple?

I hope you find these links as a help in your quest for Yahshua, if that is your quest, if not, oh well... at least you may see the meaning of ''ordained'' is not about accusing God in Christ,

 

[b&wpac4]

I hope you find these links as a help in your quest for Yahshua, if that is your quest, if not, oh well... at least you may see the meaning of ''ordained'' is not about accusing God in Christ,

Are you directing this at me?

 

[tanzanos]

Are you directing this at me?

Nah! I think it was aimed at me! But whatever!

 

[Stormahead]

The Spanish inquisition was an ordained authority. Dictators have been ordained. ...................

sure about that?

 

[tanzanos]

sure about that?

Pretty much; yes!

 

[LittleNipper]

OK! How shall I put this to you so that you may understand. Yes I have read the Bible and what I saw in there not only made my blood run cold but I seriously hope such an evil God never to exist; for if the God of Abraham existed then I will offer my services to the Light bearer and fight this evil till eternity ends! For Hell hath no evil as that in the OT!

Enjoy your evening maam!

And so you may. But my prayer is that you will realize that GOD knows everything and judges the heart of every man. HE doesn't look on outward appearances. To study the Bible is much more indepth than just merely reading it.

I feel you are are the wrong side.

 

[sandwiches]

And so you may. But my prayer is that you will realize that GOD knows everything and judges the heart of every man. HE doesn't look on outward appearances. To study the Bible is much more indepth than just merely reading it.

I feel you are are the wrong side.

You have to believe the Bible in order for it to make sense or for it to be true. As has been pointed out numerously, this is simply circular logic.

Skeptic: "How do you know the Bible is true?"
Believer: "Because the Bible says so."

Usually, they try to make it non-circular this way:
Skeptic: "How do you know the Bible is true?"
Believer: "Because I KNOW by the power of the holy spirit and the living, breathing god of blah blah."
Skeptic: "Any independent evidence for what is said in the Bible?"
Believer: "The evidence IS the Bible."
Skeptic: "So the book says it's true, and, therefore, it's true?"
Believer: "This is not just a book, it's a chronicle of truth inspired and written by the glory of god."
Skeptic: "How do you know that it was inspired by god then?"
Believer: "Because the Bible says so."

Really, when someone's reality is in their head, you can't argue as you will never find common ground as the common ground is as ethereal and cryptic as one's thoughts.

An atheist bases his beliefs on what can be tested, observed, and verified independently. He knows that gravity is true because it affects everyone equally regardless of whether they believe in it or not.

A believer, however, they believe based on what they think they know. Their beliefs cannot be verified by anyone except by those who believe already. While their beliefs might be true, the problem lies in the inability to have them verified independently, since that which is undetectable is indistinguishable from the nonexistent.

 

[Judgment]

OK! How shall I put this to you so that you may understand. Yes I have read the Bible and what I saw in there not only made my blood run cold but I seriously hope such an evil God never to exist; for if the God of Abraham existed then I will offer my services to the Light bearer and fight this evil till eternity ends! For Hell hath no evil as that in the OT!

Enjoy your evening maam!

Oh well, you are still a treasure to me. Even though you disagree with the Holy Spirit, it does not matter, most of my friends think like you and we get along well because, we do not judge each other, we forgive our trespasses. That is key. When people do not stand fast and do bring their own judgment upon themselves, they do perish like the city of Sodom, like the corrupt people of the OT that had no Cause for the future because of their own judgment ...which offered no mercy, not even unto the Angels that came unto the city of Sodom to get those with mercy out of the city.

Yahshua provides a stay of mercy, you do recognize the ridiculous judgment of persons in the OT has been in combat with Yahshua ever since he came and offered his body and blood and provided individual cover for people inside the city? There is no change in the law we are all still dealing with the degrading reality of this corrupt environment, there is just more time to repent as the days are shortened. My friend, the time of the end is now upon this generation and the sealing of the door is closing now.

There is no such thing as an eternally burning hell after people sleep in the grave, there is only the final judgment of persons and their own judgment comes upon them when they wake, people do not burn eternally, they perish if they are not sealed by Yahshua. Be comforted and know, the fruitless war against Yahshua by persons that hate the love of God in Christ is over when persons sleep and when they wake the day of their own judgment is but a vapor of a vapor of an moment.

Just stand fast and do no harm, you will be doing the same thing the Saints are doing if you do but, without reward. You will just return to the void, the place of your dominion claim.

I'll miss you my friend, my heart is broken. I'll continue to hope and pray we see you risen in agreement.

Maybe you found some interesting links from that post at least?

 

[lawtonfogle]

You have to believe the Bible in order for it to make sense or for it to be true. As has been pointed out numerously, this is simply circular logic.

Skeptic: "How do you know the Bible is true?"
Believer: "Because the Bible says so."

Usually, they try to make it non-circular this way:
Skeptic: "How do you know the Bible is true?"
Believer: "Because I KNOW by the power of the holy spirit and the living, breathing god of blah blah."
Skeptic: "Any independent evidence for what is said in the Bible?"
Believer: "The evidence IS the Bible."
Skeptic: "So the book says it's true, and, therefore, it's true?"
Believer: "This is not just a book, it's a chronicle of truth inspired and written by the glory of god."
Skeptic: "How do you know that it was inspired by god then?"
Believer: "Because the Bible says so."

Really, when someone's reality is in their head, you can't argue as you will never find common ground as the common ground is as ethereal and cryptic as one's thoughts.

An atheist bases his beliefs on what can be tested, observed, and verified independently. He knows that gravity is true because it affects everyone equally regardless of whether they believe in it or not.

You had me up till that last paragraph. You see, there are two problems. First, I have met an atheist with esoteric beliefs. Second, how do you define an atheist. Are they defined as someone who bases his beliefs on what can be tested? No, they are defined by lack of faith in any deity.

 

[sandwiches]

You had me up till that last paragraph. You see, there are two problems. First, I have met an atheist with esoteric beliefs. Second, how do you define an atheist. Are they defined as someone who bases his beliefs on what can be tested? No, they are defined by lack of faith in any deity.

Very true. An atheist may not be a naturalist like I indicated.

 

[quatona]

An atheist bases his beliefs on what can be tested, observed, and verified independently. He knows that gravity is true because it affects everyone equally regardless of whether they believe in it or not.

All that can safely be said about an atheist is that he doesn´t believe in gods. The reasons and means by which atheists have arrived at this lack of belief can vary greatly. Also, there are no beliefs that all atheists have in common, nor are their common reasons, means, methods or approaches by which they have adopted them .

 

[sandwiches]

All that can safely be said about an atheist is that he doesn´t believe in gods. The reasons and means by which atheists have arrived at this lack of belief can vary greatly. Also, there are no beliefs that all atheists have in common, nor are their common reasons, means, methods or approaches by which they have adopted them .

Yep. I conceded that point in my last post.

 

[tanzanos]

Oh well, you are still a treasure to me. Even though you disagree with the Holy Spirit, it does not matter, most of my friends think like you and we get along well because, we do not judge each other, we forgive our trespasses.

I may disagree with you on the religious side but you show a decency that many in your faith lack. If all the faithful were like you then we would not have to worry about someone using his faith to wrong others.

 

[Judgment]

I may disagree with you on the religious side but you show a decency that many in your faith lack. If all the faithful were like you then we would not have to worry about someone using his faith to wrong others.

Yahshua provides the perfect example, talk about the beast friend on Earth as they are in Heaven, that is the whole message of mercy, freedom, liberty and justice for all. Anyone that aborts such a constitution judges themselves. Yahshua got accused of being merciful, being the best friend, how can anyone not shed tears of joy for the best friend that lays down his life for his friends, those same friends that did not recognize the best friend until the fullness of love, the love equal with Yahshua was manifested by such perfect mercy. My friend, the best friend anyone shall know is the stranger that gives up their life to preserve the meaning of life, that meaning being ''love''. Love is not a sacrifice, it's a gift the best friend cannot refuse to give, the Truth is not a choice, no matter if the tune is sung by persons that dis agree with you, the Holy Spirit shouts out the perfect portion of love all the world hears in the heart. It is the will of our Father, it is eternal Truth and love that shall not perish and is the sustaining Cause. YouTube - Queen - You're My Best Friend
YouTube - Queen - Jesus
My friend, Yahshua hears your tune, it's no sacrifice to know your individual beauty, Yahshua sees his own work within you waiting to be released, Yahshua is not forcing you to sing his tune, God in Christ is just offering the song of the best friend for you to sing. Yahshua has no choice but to ensure and provide mercy, that fact is not a choice, it;s the Truth. YouTube - U2 - 40

 

[fated]

There is a great diversity in governance throughout the world. There are notable differences in a few particular rights that are contentious among the most advanced government structures and there is still much advancement being made and to be made.

It is not difficult to point out that some government are in a very sad and backward state.

Just because one government is flawed, does not mean that they are all the same and equal. There is no reason to oversimplify the situation to that extent.

For instance, I can see that Ireland, the US, and Japan have very different legal systems. However, they all seem to have a good bearing toward human rights and a fairly consistent philosophy. While I might prefer the human rights of one country to another, it is clear that... none... are on the ignorant end of the political spectrum... although in ways they sometimes seem to make regressions in some areas.