Simple Question, or maybe not

[b&wpac4]

Everywhere in the M.E. where jews managed to briefly slip free of the Romans for the next two hundred years they murdered every Christian they could lay hands on.

Got any proof of this happening?

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Got any proof of this happening?

Originally Posted by Stormahead

Everywhere in the M.E. where jews managed to briefly slip free of the Romans for the next two hundred years they murdered every Christian they could lay hands on.
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BW, I gotta support you on this.

Storm, where's your supporting historical reference?

Christians were indeed chased around in the early years of Christian growth, but I see no evidence that "Jews" could do anything to them outside of reporting then to the Romans for being "atheists" and a threat to the pagan social order of Roman power and control. And remember, Hadrian had the Jews smashed to insignificance in every sense of that word.

If you will sir?

 

[Stormahead]

In a democratic society the authority is given to the government by the people.

sooooo, if the majority decide to rob the minority, THAT is OK just why?

 

[b&wpac4]

BW, I gotta support you on this.

Storm, where's your supporting historical reference?

Christians were indeed chased around in the early years of Christian growth, but I see no evidence that "Jews" could do anything to them outside of reporting then to the Romans for being "atheists" and a threat to the pagan social order of Roman power and control. And remember, Hadrian had the Jews smashed to insignificance in every sense of that word.

If you will sir?

Thanks, PC_F. Perhaps there's hope yet of finding common ground.

 

[Athene]

I think you have come full circle. The original question posed is no different than asking how do you know which 'government' has authority or not. How can you be sure the gang doesn't have authority, while a bigger group does?

It's called Logical Deduction.

 

[Athene]

sooooo, if the majority decide to rob the minority, THAT is OK just why?

Random post is random.

 

[Judgment]

sooooo, if the majority decide to rob the minority, THAT is OK just why?

The point of order is defined by the fact that ''democracy'' is not the foundation of our Republic. The people are not above the right of the individual, that's what makes the Constitution perfect. If one sheep is lost, the Shepard, the Truth, the law, the Republic, the Constitution shall sustain the one individual , theTruth, the Constitution, the Republic for which the lost sheep stands. The people are not in charge, the spirit of the law is in charge. Democracy is the new order socialism, communism, atheism, evil. Democracy is the fascism of the people and it stands against the Truth, the individual. Democracy is not ordained by Yahshua, it is cursed like a tree that bares no fruit, it is dead. Unfortunately the tyranny of the two party system and globalists has destroyed this country morally, financially and is now subject to correction. The correction would normally be defined by revolution and war, such as the Revolutionary War, Civil War and World War. This time correction will be prophetic, it will be self destruction from within as it is now developing and the destruction that has been developing out side. Through out history, when the people lost there way and began to persecute the Saints, judgment would ensue, that time has now come in a prophetic global environment. There is no nation left on Earth that protects and serves the labor of the harvest, all nations consume the labor of the harvest and are inflated by the mark of debt system do to the lukewarm, delusional people and the violence against the nation of Israel. America provided the world with a gift it struggled to perfect as it defended the Republic against foreign and domestic enemies, it has fail financially to secure labor and has become a tool for evil do to the immorality and complacency of persons. The fact that Americans are not in the streets like the Iranian people or like counties such as Iceland and others that have had it with the corrupt government is shocking, not surprising at this prophetic point in time. America is inflated with debt, it has given up the Holy Spirit and embraced the ridiculous new world order socialism. America no longer exists as a nation ordained, it exists as a tool of a lost majority that has sacrificed the individual for a global corporate model that will not sustain order, it will lead to Armageddon.

 

[westmanmd]

The word ordained is key to the question. It seems that when God made us he ordained in us life, by day, week, month and year. whether we belieive in Him or not. God made man and ordained in him the compassion for others. placed him above angels, called him to prayer, worship and fellowship. and put on our hearts the works that could be done in His name. self goevernment was given to us so that we may diplay the intentions of our hearts as a nation. hitlers nazi party was ordained in the same alignment to the rules. the people made their choice and the rest is a much deeper story. now we as a nation are faced with a simular situation. taking God out of everything, public forum, schools, the military and the one thing i find distrubing. that prez obama says that we are a nation not of One God, but a nation of many gods. this is troubling. i understand his situation, but couldnt he have said we are a nation that beleives in the One God, that gave us jesus and that we understand we have choices to make and America is that place in this world.i thought the prez was a christian? what kind of rule will Jesus bring forth when He comes to reign? one of justice for all allowing them to see and believe on Him. so, all men should give glory to God esspecially leaders. for leaders have a special twist to their judgement from God. if the governing body made up of the people. does not acknolegde God within themselves and the struggle of the soul to come to God or not.that the governing body should be impartial,unbiased,and most of all equal in all measure not showing favor one over another. remembering that all have the same given rights, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. can we say that America did or didnt serve justice to its people throughout its history. sure we can because we know our history we did and didnt. we must give credit to the humans in that place and time that made the chioces and we get to reveiw the aftermath. some were people of God, some were not, some just were nice and polite keeping a quietness about themselves,some were not they became loud, some were thieves and liars. test the spirits are they of God and goodness or not. it is not for us to change the course of His path,but to accept it. to live in harmony and for justice giving all a chance to decide.

 

[Judgment]

How true it was, America provided the liberty to love Yahshua and the mercy not to. No one was forced to love Yahshua and that is what made America the greatest nation that has ever been on Earth. We provided an escape but, now we have embraced the global system of debt that is devouring the labor of the harvest. This has happened because we have abandoned the Republic of law and surrendered to the new world order of democracy, where the people are above the individual. Instead of preserving the individual and the Republic, America has sold the Constitution to the new world order corruption, the social disease of socialism, fascism, evil.

The Islamic state of Iran and the Jewish state of Israel are examples of discrimination and prejudice that will eventually self destruct as with all nations that have no mercy for the profane. America had the strength of law, the Constitution but, the corruption of atheism, socialism and government corporate fascism has influenced the market, education and social order.

Israel is a prime example of stability, all manner of Jewish ethnic diversity live in peace, even as Israel is surrounded by the hatred of Islam. The globalists are given the strong delusion that there should be no separation, everything should be free and open but, this will never happen like in America. Islamic states that hate Israel and the immigration of Islam to secular countries is disrupting social order. The fact is, the freedom and liberty offered by Christianity and secularism cannot stand the influence of Israel, Islam etc... The globalists are delusional in this regard, they have created a new world order tower of Babel and the new world order prophetic City of Babylon. Islam, if not a secularized like Turkey or tolerant, is suicidal. Israel and the new global market cannot stand in this age of weapons of mass destruction combined with communist China, Russia and Iran. The false peace will be broken and sudden destruction shall come, the prophesy is defined and the current reality is now perfectly in place for the fullness of time. This generation is now witnessing the fullness of time, this is what is ordained.

The combination of the new world order global socialism and non secular Islamic state and Israel is going to destroy everything. Religious and political corruption has established a pollution that will bring judgment to the whole Earth but, for the sake of the ellect, the days are shortened, not all shall perish, the sealed Saints shall be caught up.

 

[Stormahead]

Random post is random.

very simple question really

 

[lawtonfogle]

It's called Logical Deduction.

Using what guidelines?

 

[Veyrlian]

Seems to me there are a lot of people preaching apocalypse. What worries me is that an end of the world as we know it, could be self-fulfilling. If everyone of these nuts will rise up in arms against the "evil, vile ideas" of other people, there will be wars, and if everyone thinks they are fighting for "good and morality" there will be no end to them. I rather suspect many of these same people want to see the world end, after all, it has become evil and horrible, and there is "heaven" waiting.

Really a beautiful worldview.

 

[sandwiches]

This may seem random but am I the only one who's reminded of the white supremacist website stormfront.com when you see what stormahead says about Jews?

 

[Athene]

Using what guidelines?

Logical ones. In western society governments are not above the law therefore can not demand money with the threat of violence. If a group turned up my door demanding money while waving a gun in my face I can safely assume they are not from the government. Occums Razor and all that.

 

[Judgment]

Seems to me there are a lot of people preaching apocalypse. What worries me is that an end of the world as we know it, could be self-fulfilling. If everyone of these nuts will rise up in arms against the "evil, vile ideas" of other people, there will be wars, and if everyone thinks they are fighting for "good and morality" there will be no end to them. I rather suspect many of these same people want to see the world end, after all, it has become evil and horrible, and there is "heaven" waiting.

Really a beautiful worldview.

The world is not in order. How could anyone blame Yahshua for the ills of the world and witness the judgment of man, the same judgment in need of mercy, how could anyone not long for the day of restoration? Yahshua is not coming because the world is ordained, Yahshua is coming to preserve the mercy of Heaven as it is on Earth. It seems to me that the people that preach the world is doing fine are delusional. If everyone of these nuts will rise up in arms against the mercy of Yahshua, they shall be the same persons that cry for the rocks to fall upon them because they think they are fighting to sustain ''good and morality'' not perfection. There is no doubt, these are the same persons that would rather continue to abort mercy, after all, their heaven is on Earth as it is in the grave.

Really a beautiful world view... Yeeah! Riiiight! Ordained by man without Cause or foundation? These kind of persons are the living dead, they live for the sake of the grave and are risen without Cause. Too bad some shall not rise but, for a short time they do walk as shadows in the valley and as spirits in contempt.

 

[Judgment]

This may seem random but am I the only one who's reminded of the white supremacist website stormfront.com when you see what stormahead says about Jews?

Accusing yourself of randomly offering a racist remark that has nothing to do with the savior of Jews and the gentiles of all races and then offering some ridiculous website you found doing who knows what, no that's not random at all, thats evil. Yahshua stands fast, offering mercy to all, Yahshua and the Saints do not take up the arm of man, the good news is offered without mercy and without force. Persons are either Antichrist or they are given the Holy Spirit. There is no call for judgment or condemnation, that is left to the Antichrist, white supremacists, all racists, nations, tongues and persons that love not the perfect gift of mercy and do judge themselves.

 

[tanzanos]

Theocracies are no different to secular dictatorships. The main problem with the Abrahamic religions is that all 3 are based on the OT and the OT God is an entity that has nothing in common with goodness! Evil is rampant in the OT! The good news is that No such God existed nor exists and therefore we will be spared his evil apocalypse.

Governments are inherently made up of dishonest politicians. Power and money corrupts. It matters not if one is religious or secular.

Also the most dangerous times in human history was from the dark ages all the way to just before the renaissance. Europe was tormented by theocratic regimes that spared ner a soul in their quest for power.

 

[Judgment]

Logical ones. In western society governments are not above the law therefore can not demand money with the threat of violence. If a group turned up my door demanding money while waving a gun in my face I can safely assume they are not from the government. Occums Razor and all that.

IRS agents are armed. If an American does not volunteer to support the corruption now levying the income tax and zero interest inflation, people with guns will attempt to kill anyone defending themselves in like manner. The only way Americans can peacefully defend their labor against the armed resistance their tax dollars support is by not providing labor. At this point, providing labor to an arm insurgency of agents with guns that are in service to a global corporation is counter intelligent. This government is a total financial failure and the whole world knows it. America will never be able to recover from the debt and the spending required to sustain it, that is just a mathematic fact. The world had a 60 trillion dollar margin call, the global GDP was 34 Trillion. Only 30 trillion was paid down and that was do to printing money. America has rolled over financially. AIG, City, Goldman etc... should have all failed but, instead of letting them fail, the corruption that created the exposure labor is now called to sustain, has placed the mark of debt into the entire global labor market. This was calculated, this was no accident, this was done by design. The legislators were bought, the central bankers lobbied and conspired to establish a derivative market that would create a global exposure large enough to establish a crisis that would present their new world order final market solution. This was designed to control labor, not to free labor and this is the fulfillment of the prophetic black horse.

 

[Judgment]

Theocracies are no different to secular dictatorships. The main problem with the Abrahamic religions is that all 3 are based on the OT and the OT God is an entity that has nothing in common with goodness! Evil is rampant in the OT! The good news is that No such God existed nor exists and therefore we will be spared his evil apocalypse.

Governments are inherently made up of dishonest politicians. Power and money corrupts. It matters not if one is religious or secular.

Also the most dangerous times in human history was from the dark ages all the way to just before the renaissance. Europe was tormented by theocratic regimes that spared ner a soul in their quest for power.

Your offer is ludicrous, we are in a prophetic reality of mass instant destruction such as the world has never witnessed. We are in the prophetic age of communication where the mercy of God in Christ is offered all over the world instantly. This is not the age of the OT, this is the prophetic fulfillment of Yahshua. The good news is that the spirit of the law forgives the judgment of fools and restors the intelligence of love and Truth. No man can deny the written Word of the mercy of Yahshua. Even if persons do not accept the prophetic fact of life defined by the mercy of God in Christ, Yahshua is the perfect example of the Truth standing fast and doing no harm. Europe and the world has been subject to corruption and violence not by persons standing fast in agreement with the mercy of Yahshua, but with the will of persons consumed by wine of wrath in the cup of fornication.

 

[sandwiches]

Accusing yourself of randomly offering a racist remark that has nothing to do with the savior of Jews and the gentiles of all races and then offering some ridiculous website you found doing who knows what, no that's not random at all, thats evil. Yahshua stands fast, offering mercy to all, Yahshua and the Saints do not take up the arm of man, the good news is offered without mercy and without force. Persons are either Antichrist or they are given the Holy Spirit. There is no call for judgment or condemnation, that is left to the Antichrist, white supremacists, all racists, nations, tongues and persons that love not the perfect gift of mercy and do judge themselves.

I accused myself of randomly offering a racist remark??

Ummm... what? Did you even read the post or did you just lash out blindly?