Simple Question, or maybe not

[tulc]

How does a Christian tell the difference between a Government Ordained by God and a Gang of robbers & extortionists?

By size? By the quality of their propaganda on CNN?

Just to remind us what the OP for the thread is.
In America it's whoever wins the election. Seems pretty easy to me.
tulc(is having a great fathers day)

 

[tulc]

Accusing yourself of randomly offering a racist remark that has nothing to do with the savior of Jews and the gentiles of all races and then offering some ridiculous website you found doing who knows what, no that's not random at all, thats evil. Yahshua stands fast, offering mercy to all, Yahshua and the Saints do not take up the arm of man, the good news is offered without mercy and without force. Persons are either Antichrist or they are given the Holy Spirit. There is no call for judgment or condemnation, that is left to the Antichrist, white supremacists, all racists, nations, tongues and persons that love not the perfect gift of mercy and do judge themselves.

uhmmm you do know that was no where even close to what sandwiches said, right?
tulc(just thought you might want to apologize for accusing him of something he didn't say)

 

[Judgment]

I accused myself of randomly offering a racist remark??

Ummm... what? Did you even read the post or did you just lash out blindly?

Did you blindly offer racism or did you read anything on this thread that had anything to do with white supremacy? Do yourself a favor and stand fast before you the hole you are digging is too deep.

 

[sandwiches]

Did you blindly offer racism or did you read anything on this thread that had anything to do with white supremacy? Do yourself a favor and stand fast before you the hole you are digging is too deep.

I think you're replying in the wrong thread, sport.

 

[tulc]

Did you blindly offer racism

Well, no he didn't. He simply asked a question about something he was wondering about.

or did you read anything on this thread that had anything to do with white supremacy?

Sure, Stormahead brought up one of the main talking points of a group called "Stormfront" Did you miss that post?

Do yourself a favor and stand fast before you the hole you are digging is too deep.

Actually you really did misunderstand his post and have now accused him a couple times of doing something he didn't do.
tulc(trying once again)

 

[Veyrlian]

The world is not in order. How could anyone blame Yahshua for the ills of the world and witness the judgment of man, the same judgment in need of mercy, how could anyone not long for the day of restoration? Yahshua is not coming because the world is ordained, Yahshua is coming to preserve the mercy of Heaven as it is on Earth. It seems to me that the people that preach the world is doing fine are delusional. If everyone of these nuts will rise up in arms against the mercy of Yahshua, they shall be the same persons that cry for the rocks to fall upon them because they think they are fighting to sustain ''good and morality'' not perfection. There is no doubt, these are the same persons that would rather continue to abort mercy, after all, their heaven is on Earth as it is in the grave.

Really a beautiful world view... Yeeah! Riiiight! Ordained by man without Cause or foundation? These kind of persons are the living dead, they live for the sake of the grave and are risen without Cause. Too bad some shall not rise but, for a short time they do walk as shadows in the valley and as spirits in contempt.

Why would persons who think everything is fine raise up their arms and go to war? None of this makes any sense.
It seems to be completely off topic anyway, and I'm rather tired of hearing how evil and hedonistic and demoralizing I am to society, now I can add without a Cause and contemptuous and living dead to my CV too. I do apologise for not seeing the beauty of wanton demonizing of people and needless polarization of society. If you think the world is not in order, I don't understand why you'd deliberately try to cause more disorder by spreading fear and insults, instead of attempting to peacefully solve the differences.

 

[Judgment]

Well, no he didn't. He simply asked a question about something he was wondering about.

Sure, Stormahead brought up one of the main talking points of a group called "Stormfront" Did you miss that post?

Actually you really did misunderstand his post and have now accused him a couple times of doing something he didn't do.
tulc(trying once again)

What does white supremacy have to do with the subject and why would anyone be mentioning or responding to it on this thread?

 

[Judgment]

Seems to me there are a lot of people preaching apocalypse. What worries me is that an end of the world as we know it, could be self-fulfilling. If everyone of these nuts will rise up in arms against the "evil, vile ideas" of other people, there will be wars, and if everyone thinks they are fighting for "good and morality" there will be no end to them. I rather suspect many of these same people want to see the world end, after all, it has become evil and horrible, and there is "heaven" waiting.

Really a beautiful worldview.

''These nuts'' ''preaching apocalypse'' ''self fulfilling'' ''rise up in arms'' ''other people'' ''and there is Heaven waiting'' Come on... your reflection leaves no doubt.

 

[Judgment]

I think you're replying in the wrong thread, sport.

Don't call me sport.

 

[Veyrlian]

''These nuts'' ''preaching apocalypse'' ''self fulfilling'' ''rise up in arms'' ''other people'' ''and there is Heaven waiting'' Come on... your reflection leaves no doubt.

Well, am I wrong then? I reserve the right to offer predictions too.

Edit: Even though I realize it's pretty nutty.

 

[Judgment]

Why would persons who think everything is fine raise up their arms and go to war? None of this makes any sense.
It seems to be completely off topic anyway, and I'm rather tired of hearing how evil and hedonistic and demoralizing I am to society, now I can add without a Cause and contemptuous and living dead to my CV too. I do apologise for not seeing the beauty of wanton demonizing of people and needless polarization of society. If you think the world is not in order, I don't understand why you'd deliberately try to cause more disorder by spreading fear and insults, instead of attempting to peacefully solve the differences.

You are rather tiered of what? your own disdain for the mercy of Yahshua! or just the reflection of your contempt? The mark of the beast sealed upon the deceived is not a sign of pacifism, it's the mark of delusion sealed upon all that accept the wine of wrath the world offers, there is no escaping the tax that pays to sustain the force behind it, only those who stand fast in mercy are sealed by Yahshua. People that stand fast and do no harm are not sealed by the mark of the beast, they do not provide labor for corruption and violence. If persons stand fast in agreement with Yahshua, they will not take up the arm of man and they will not provide labor for an inversion.

 

[tulc]

What does white supremacy have to do with the subject

Nothing at all. What sandwich was doing was asking if anyone else noticed the similarities between a posters name, something he said and a group of white supremacists called "Stormfront".

and why would anyone be mentioning or responding to it on this thread?

What most people are responding to is how you made a mistake about what sandwich said.
tulc(for which you haven't apologized)

 

[Judgment]

Well, am I wrong then? I reserve the right to offer predictions too.

Edit: Even though I realize it's pretty nutty.

The will of God in Christ defining in prophesy is not the will of man which aborts mercy and does war against Heaven as it is among the numbered Saints that stand fast and do no harm.

 

[Judgment]

Nothing at all. What sandwich was doing was asking if anyone else noticed the similarities between a posters name, something he said and a group of white supremacists called "Stormfront".

What most people are responding to is how you made a mistake about what sandwich said.
tulc(for which you haven't apologized)

Wonderful. Still does not makes sense, he alluded it was not related and now that explains the exposure. Glad to know and nice to clear it up.

 

[Veyrlian]

You are rather tiered of what? your own disdain for the mercy of Yahshua! or just the reflection of your contempt? The mark of the beast sealed upon the deceived is not a sign of pacifism, it's the mark of delusion sealed upon all that accept the wine of wrath the world offers, there is no escaping the tax that pays to sustain the force behind it, only those who stand fast in mercy are sealed by Yahshua. People that stand fast and do no harm are not sealed by the mark of the beast, they do not provide labor for corruption and violence. If persons stand fast in agreement with Yahshua, they will not take up the arm of man and they will not provide labor for an inversion.

Oh, man. Yes I'm tired of this mercy.
/thread derail

 

[Nimrauko]

How does a Christian tell the difference between a Government Ordained by God and a Gang of robbers & extortionists?

By size? By the quality of their propaganda on CNN?

Honestly think about it.....why would God care about our politics? What stake does he have vested?

He gains nothing loses nothing either way. And the Countries whom thought they were ordained to do his will, or the will of any god, have all fallen to ruin and are now the things of history. How long will people have to see Theocracy doesnt work in any fashion.

 

[tanzanos]

Your offer is ludicrous, we are in a prophetic reality of mass instant destruction such as the world has never witnessed. We are in the prophetic age of communication where the mercy of God in Christ is offered all over the world instantly. This is not the age of the OT, this is the prophetic fulfillment of Yahshua. The good news is that the spirit of the law forgives the judgment of fools and restors the intelligence of love and Truth. No man can deny the written Word of the mercy of Yahshua. Even if persons do not accept the prophetic fact of life defined by the mercy of God in Christ, Yahshua is the perfect example of the Truth standing fast and doing no harm. Europe and the world has been subject to corruption and violence not by persons standing fast in agreement with the mercy of Yahshua, but with the will of persons consumed by wine of wrath in the cup of fornication.

PROOF?

 

[Stormahead]

Honestly think about it.....why would God care about our politics? What stake does he have vested?

...........................

HE has Directed us to Obey authority He Ordains, soooooo yes it is worthwhile to be able to tell the difference between Ordained government and gangs of robbers.

 

[tanzanos]

HE has Directed us to Obey authority He Ordains, soooooo yes it is worthwhile to be able to tell the difference between Ordained government and gangs of robbers.

The Spanish inquisition was an ordained authority. Dictators have been ordained. Robbers may have compassion but the inquisition and dictators hardly carry such a trait!

 

[Judgment]

PROOF?

Have you read the Bible? If not, your ''proof'' resides there and is confirmed by the reality of today. Israel exists, the prophetic economic global system exists and the weapons that now exist, nuclear, bio and chemical exist.It is possible to destroy all flesh as it is possible now to kill as many people in past wars with an exchange of weapons of mass destruction between enemies in the East and the West.

It is written, the leaders of nations leading up to the point of the prophetic false peace that will be broken, they are given strong delusion, not because they are ordained by the Holy Spirit but because, they have not the Holy Spirit and do their own will, All nations are consumed by the wine of wrath in the cup of fornication, they are drunk off of the labor of the harvest and are inflated to the point where their cup overflows with their corruption. Inflation and debt places a mark upon labor, this is defined by a measure of wheat for a penny, the black horse. See that you look up the proof for yourself in the Bible. If you do not accept what is written therein, the Holy Spirit is not with you but, the offer remains before you, open up the book of life and witness the name of mercy, may it be sealed upon you. Fear not, go with God in Christ or just an open heart when you seek out confirmation in the word. Use the awesome tool, the computer and do a search. You shall find the proof.

KJV Bible Verse List : Strong Delusion

Wow! I must thank you for your post, let me tell you why. This morning I was looking at CNBC Squawk Box, they did a report on the fact that the dairy farmers are losing $7 for every $10 dollars of production and are slaughtering cows because of deflation. They projected a ridiculous hike in prices and the futures are reflecting this fact. Well, as I was inspired to bring up some random posts to help you along, my first search was general, usually I type in Bible Gateway or another sight that brings up verses but, the first link I looked up just happened to have milk prices on it. Just before I clicked on this sight and saw your post, I was trying to bring up the Squawk Box report but it's either too early because the report just happened or what ever. I had been searching the net a little to try and find the data they gave on the show because I did not write it down. The price projection for milk was that stunning. The existing contango in commodities like milk and oil is amazing and prophetic. If there was a relatively quick recovery, the supply and demand ratio would cause price hikes and shortages in milk in the future or an increase in demand destruction do to inflation. No matter how you look at it, the world market is inverted and flooded with debt
Prophezine - Bible Prophecy & World Events: He Rides a Black Horse

BibleGateway.com - PassageLookup: Luke 17:26-30;;

Daniel 8:25 He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.

The Antichrist Beast!

Daniel 5:25 "This is the inscription that was written: MENE, MENE, TEKEL, PARSIN

This is an interesting article. In it there is a section that defines a unit of measure in a counter weight use for the tribute paid in the region. 666-668 comes up. This is related to counter weights used in the region and the coins use to pay comes into play. The numbered, weighed and divided writing on the wall may be come clear to you.
Full text of "Weights and balances"
NETBible: Luke 2:1
Check out the lion of Babylon counter weight http://www.livius.org/w/weights/weights.html
Check out the mark of the beast
Baal Coins - Ba'al Coins - Mazaios Coins - Mazaeus Coins Mark 12:16 They brought the coin, and he asked them, "Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?" "Caesar's," they replied.
Check out the saddle on the Lion Of Babylon, wonder what the woman riding in the saddle represents? Look it up, you may see more than a goddess, you may see the labor of a harlot, like Horus rising, the Antichrist people sealed by the mark of the beast may become clear to you.
AllPosters.com - Zoom Image for Product 1342347

Roman Currency of the Principate
Naval Campaign Rules for Naumachiae

BibleGateway.com - PassageLookup: Revelation 13: 16-17;

Who's mark represents an ancient Egyptian Tomb and a picture of a Presidential Mason? Funny, a tomb does not represent me and I am not a Mason and the dollar as the reserve currency of the world insures that all persons that buy sell and trade are subject to the mark of it's inflation. Ironic? Odained? Holy? Maybe not so simple?