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Then Take it up with Paul, as your objection lies with Him, not me.
Or take up your objection with the Psalmist, as your view is polar opposite to His:
For I was born a sinner--yes, from the moment my mother conceived me.
Ps 51:5
Imputed sin is a Catholic teaching. Please know that not every Christian accepts that teaching because it is not Biblical . Deuteronomy 24:16 tells us each one is responsible for their own sin. The sins of the father do not pass to their sons.
It would be a little ridiculous if God ordained that in the law for man but violated it as our Father when He created his human children and imputed sin upon them.
If newborns were born with sin upon them, Jesus would not have told his Disciples and others that in order to see the Kingdom of God we must become like little children.
According to your belief, that would be saying we must become sinners.
Jesus also said , "Let the children come to me. Don't stop them! For the Kingdom of Heaven belongs to those who are like these children." Matthew 19:14.
According to your belief Jesus would there be saying the Kingdom of Heaven belongs to sinners.
Of course what ?
Here you are talking about when great belief is present.
There is no question there, no problem at all when people believe.
The point was simply there are times(many times) people could be healed and are not healed
on Sabbath or on any other day
because of their UNbelief.
In that regard that is David speaking of his conception as sinful because his mother had an affair
Or, you do not understand them.
The entire exchange when Jesus was confronted by a certain Pharisee, one educated in the law, for working on the Sabbath and Jesus response pertains to his working on the Sabbath.
You make these accusations that people don't understand and yet you don't prove you do. Because the scriptures are clear and you're just arguing for arguments sake.
Mitzvah does not pertain to healing. Mitzvah pertains to the Jewish law of 613 commands.
Rapha is the Hebrew word for healing.
But then you said,...You asked how old was Adam when he was created.
I replied YHWH was ONE. (and HE still IS - HE doesn't age)......
Come to think of it, Adam was one day old after evening and morning made one day.....
You didn't ask, and I didn't answer what day he was created on.
Yahweh is still one.
Yes, that is one of the scriptures that support my statement. Thank you for posting it here.Now one of the scribes had come up and heard their debate. Noticing how well Jesus had answered them, he asked Him, “Which commandment is the most important of all?” Jesus replied, this is the most important: Shema Yisrael, Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai Ehad (Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One), and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’…
Sorry my post wasn't clear enough.But then you said,...
I didn't have to ask, Genesis 1 tells me that God created Man on the sixth day, and not the first.
You're right that Jesus healed on the Sabbath. You're wrong in thinking I side with the Pharisee. I'm relating what the scriptures relate as pertains to the Pharisee.But I do. In this case YOU agree with the lies of the Pharisees, because they themselves knew it. The Scriptures are very clear as is 2nd Temple Jewish halakha...
I just wanted to add this, there is a distinction in doing our work and kingdom work. Yeshua was doing kingdom work when he healed on the Shabbat. The Levites did kingdom work on Shabbat in the temple. We too should do kingdom work on the Shabbat (go visit the sick and elderly, feed the poor, those are some examplesIf you have the opportunity and the power to heal, you must, yes even on Shabbat. Yeshua's miracles were to produce faith...IN HIM.
Thank you.
Doesn't change the facts of David in the Psalm.
I just wanted to add this, there is a distinction in doing our work and kingdom work. Yeshua was doing kingdom work when he healed on the Shabbat. The Levites did kingdom work on Shabbat in the temple. We too should do kingdom work on the Shabbat (go visit the sick and elderly, feed the poor, those are some examples
Matthew 12 5 Or have you not read in the Law how on the Sabbath the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath and are guiltless? 6 I tell you, something greater than the temple is here.
Your response is an overly simplistic answer that, while on its own merits sounds true, is actually incorrect within context.So, because I believe in Jesus I follow what He says. And Jesus says to follow the will of his Father in Heaven. And His father said to keep the 7th day holy.
If you believe in exercise and go to the gym it is because you believe that by works you will gain something. That is not a good analogy for God's Grace and Mercy; in fact, it's the opposite, it's an analogy for God's Law and His Justice.If I believe in exercise I go to the gym, I don't sit around all day. If I believe in vegetarianism I don't eat meat, I follow what vegetarianism means. If I believe in Jesus I do what Jesus says. How can you say you believe in Jesus if you don't follow His commandments? And isn't that how we are saved? By believing in Jesus? Even the demons believe, but they don't believe in. Read what James 2 is actually saying:
It's true our faith will bear itself out in our works, but remember that that's the correct order. Faith --> Works. Works do nothing for us. Works are for us at best a sign to ourselves and others that our faith is real. Works do not increase God's Glory. We cannot add to Him, He is perfect. Works are simply our expression of our faith. We cannot receive salvation by works because under works we are already condemned, no matter how many good works we do now that we are saved. Our salvation comes from our faith in God's Grace.James 2
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. 25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
What is your source for this? Somebody's "blog"?
Unless you provide examples, you're just blowing hot air.
As I shall for you.Oh, I'm praying for you for strength in the face of temptation, not about the Psalm.
No poetic license.I really do believe that what you are talking about is poetic license, and not particularly factually accurate. Besides, according to the legend I read, Jesse slept with his wife instead of a concubine, and therefor, the conception was not sinful.
No poetic license.
If David's father Yishai had slept with his mother Nitzevet, David would not have been conceived in sin. Psalm 69.
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