'Shoot Them All At the Border': DMV Employee Investigated for Facebook Comment on Immigrants

[Liza B.]

I understand the way liberals think about illegal immigration. They look at what the rhetoric from the right is, and think that the conservative argument is all about racism, xenophobia, and nationalistic pride. For many on the left, that's reason enough to oppose any real control on illegal immigration.

Bad arguments on the right don't make the opposite position automatically good. Most people on the left understand there's a problem with the way we treat the poor. Income inequality is a problem. Social services are a problem. Our public education and health systems are a mess. Too many families have too much debt, too many families are living paycheck to paycheck. These are all realities the left agrees with....

So how does one justify letting half a million poor from other nations creep across the border every year? Do you honestly believe that they're contributing more than they're taking? They aren't just poor...they have nothing, they don't speak the language, they have less education than the poor from our nation. You can't genuinely believe they're doing anything other than making the problems related to poverty worse...

Illegal immigration shouldn't even be a partisan issue. Anyone with a brain should be opposed to it...there's no good argument for letting it continue.

They have no argument so they screech "RACIST" even louder.

That's where we are.

 

[Inkfingers]

If someone tries to break into your house, it is legal to shoot them.

So if someone tries to break into your country, it is legal to shoot them is it not?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Her comments were terrible. But this does make me wonder about the use of Facebook comments to terminate people from employment. Yes, some things that people say are stupid and cruel, and should be reprimanded for that. If not let go. However. Is posting a comment on Facebook the same thing as making a rude or violent comment at work, while on the clock?

Let's exaggerate a little bit for comparison -- suppose it becomes public knowledge that the employee is a member of the Ku Klux Klan.... is an employer going to let it slide because, "well, at least she doesn't wear her white hood at work"?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Oh and by the way, the FBI has taken a huge hit. Did you read what Lisa Page said about the March for Life and women that want to have their own babies?

FBI discredited to a large degree, btw. You want the numbers on that?

numbers on credibility? No need; you've already proven my point for me.

 

[Desk trauma]

So if someone tries to break into your country, it is legal to shoot them is it not?

No. Law enforcement in the US isn't allowed to shoot people suspected of crimes on site, baring a threat to the officer or the public, nor should they be.

 

[Inkfingers]

No. Law enforcement in the US isn't allowed to shoot people suspected of crimes on site, baring a threat to the officer or the public, nor should they be.

That is for people within the country. We are speaking of people trying to break into the country. If you can shoot to defend your home, why not also your country?

 

[Desk trauma]

That is for people within the country.

It's true at the borders as well. The boarder patrol isn't empowered to shoot suspected illegal immigrants on site, nor should they be.

We are speaking of people trying to break into the country. If you can shoot to defend your home, why not also your country?

Because a immigration violation does not come with the threat of violence that forcefully entering another's property does.

 

[Inkfingers]

Because a immigration violation does not come with the threat of violence that forcefully entering another's property does.

Actually it does, as a country is property as much as a house is, and there is certainly a threat of violence when you consider the drug gangs.

Don't want to get shot? Simple. Don't try to break in. If you want to enter, go the legit route.

 

[ripple the car]

Let's exaggerate a little bit for comparison -- suppose it becomes public knowledge that the employee is a member of the Ku Klux Klan.... is an employer going to let it slide because, "well, at least she doesn't wear her white hood at work"?

That's not a very helpful exaggeration. My question is, should posting an unpopular or even unkind thought or view on social media get you fired just as surely as saying something at work, while on the clock. I'm not sure that it should. However offensive or annoying our thoughts or views may be, we do have a right to hold them, and do have a right to a personal life.

I've heard stories of employees being fired after the employer viewed risqué pictures of them getting inebriated on Facebook. Not a wise choice, but not the same thing as showing up to *work* hungover or inebriated.

 

[Desk trauma]

Actually it does, as a country is property as much as a house is, and there is certainly a threat of violence when you consider the drug gangs.

Except it does not. Crossing the border illegally isn't the same as kicking in the door of a private residence.

Don't want to get shot? Simple. Don't try to break in. If you want to enter, go the legit route.

Are there other misdemeanors you want punished by summery execution or just suspicion of immigration violation? Alternatively we could remain a civilized country and simply arrest those who violate the law rather then turning portions of the country into free fire zones.

 

[Inkfingers]

Are there other misdemeanors you want punished by summery execution or just suspicion of immigration violation?

Legit people do not try to break in. They go to the border crossing and claim asylum or seek normal migrant status.

Are burglars just undocumented household occupants?

Alternatively we could remain a civilized country and simply arrest those who violate the law rather then turning portions of the country into free fire zones.

A civilised country defends its borders as a civilised householder defends his home.

 

[Desk trauma]

Legit people do not try to break in. They go to the border crossing and claim asylum or seek normal migrant status.

Illegal immigration is a crime and its proper to deport those who are here illegally and punish those who employ them but it's an absurd stretch to liken them to home invaders. It's a civil infraction in most cases.

civilised country defends its borders as a civilised householder defends his home.

We do defend our boarders, that's what the boarder patrol is for. There is no need to give them free reign to shoot suspects. Arresting them is sufficient.

 

[TLK Valentine]

That's not a very helpful exaggeration. My question is, should posting an unpopular or even unkind thought or view on social media get you fired just as surely as saying something at work, while on the clock. I'm not sure that it should. However offensive or annoying our thoughts or views may be, we do have a right to hold them, and do have a right to a personal life.

Agreed -- but an employer has a right to fire any employee who turns out to be a financial liability.

And thanks to the magic of social media, you can become a liability anywhere at anytime.

 

[Ana the Ist]

If someone tries to break into your house, it is legal to shoot them.

So if someone tries to break into your country, it is legal to shoot them is it not?

No....lol I should hope you understand why. If someone breaks into your home, its reasonable to assume they mean you harm. If they don't have a weapon and turn to run out the house when they see you...it's not as if you can just kill them for breaking the law.

So obviously, breaking into the nation illegally isn't the same thing.

 

[Inkfingers]

No....lol I should hope you understand why. If someone breaks into your home, its reasonable to assume they mean you harm. If they don't have a weapon and turn to run out the house when they see you...it's not as if you can just kill them for breaking the law.

And if they break into a country their intent is obviously crime as well....otherwise they'd go to a border crossing point and take the legal route.

 

[Goonie]

And if they break into a country their intent is obviously crime as well....otherwise they'd go to a border crossing point and take the legal route.

Sorry but no, post Brexit you will not have the right to kill any Irishmen who crosses the border outside of crossings, I know your disappointed, but crossing the borders of a country is not considered a threat to you or those around you, to shoot them would be murder.

 

[TLK Valentine]

If someone tries to break into your house, it is legal to shoot them.

So if someone tries to break into your country, it is legal to shoot them is it not?

Do you own the country?

 

[mina]

You can be fired for anything you put on social media that goes against what your employer wants in people that are representing them. I imagine supporting murder is frowned upon by most bosses. When I was teaching , a teacher within my district was fired for taking a picture with a glass of wine and making it their fb profile picture .

 

[Goonie]

You can be fired for anything you put on social media that goes against what your employer wants in people that are representing them. I imagine supporting murder is frowned upon by most bosses. When I was teaching , a teacher within my district was fired for taking a picture with a glass of wine and making it their fb profile picture .

Sorry? A picture with a glass of wine? Unless it was taken at school, what business of the employer?

 

[Inkfingers]

Do you own the country?

The citizens own it. The ILLEGAL migrant does not.