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This is the covenant I will make with themYes--And who is it that He makes a covenant with? And when?
This is the covenant I will make with them
after that time, says the Lord.
I will put my laws in their hearts,
and I will write them on their minds.’b]'>[b]
17 Then he adds:
‘Their sins and lawless acts
I will remember no more.’c]'>[c]
18 And where these have been forgiven, sacrifice for sin is no longer necessary.
This covenant began when sacrifices for sin were no longer necessary. It is made for anyone who accepts Christ as their saviour
And the law not being written in ink but written on the heart obviously includes gentiles, for Paul wrote that to gentiles!!!
I'm not going to continue a discussion, where all you care about is trying to reason anything, however absurd, in order to defend your particular belief and that of your denomination. And You will sacrifice sola scripture, to do it, for what matters to you most, in truth is not what is written in the bible but defending your beliefs. SDA are not the only ones to do this of course, people will reason anything on the internet, to defend their particular denominational beliefs. I will leave you to itNo--He wrote it to Jews, and the very first Christians. Then He went to the Gentiles. And preached the word of God to them until they accepted Christ.
I'm not going to continue a discussion, where all you care about is trying to defend your particular belief and that of your denomination. And You will sacrifice sola scripture, to do it, for what matters to you most, in truth is not what is written in the bible but defending your beliefs. SDA are not the only ones to do this of course, people will reason anything on the internet, to defend their particular denominational beliefs. I will leave you to it
What is plainly written in the bible may not be true, this is proven by those who followed after David Koresh, Jim Jones and others etc.
Maybe only Jews have the laws written in their hearts etc
Non stimulating discussion
It is very interesting to note, that those who insist you must follow a specific Saturday sabbath, rely on a law written in ink to believe that, not a conviction that comes from within, and under the new covenant, the conviction comes from within concerning law to be followed, for that is where the law has been placed
So you had an inner conviction you must follow a specific Saturday sabbath from within, without firstly reading law written in ink? I do not believe that, and I doubt anyone else would eitherSooo very, very wrong-it is a conviction that comes from within--it is from the Holy Spirit--hope one day you will listen to it----bye.
It keeps coming back to the same thing. You either follow after the Holy Spirit or the written code, you cannot do both according to Paul. The Holy Spirit, who is the Spirit of truth was given to lead believers into truth.
Follow after the written code, and you rely on what is written in ink to know the law God desires you to follow. That is not Spirit led Christianity, you are devoid of it
So you had an inner conviction you must follow a specific Saturday sabbath from within, without firstly reading law written in ink? I do not believe that, and I doubt anyone else would either
Bye
Yep, you were convicted to follow a specific Saturday sabbath by firstly reading law written in ink, thanksYou don't listen very well--do you? Post #825 answered that. You either did not read it or ignored what I said fir your own theory---you have a tendency to do that a lot.
Yep, you were convicted to follow a specific Saturday sabbath by firstly reading law written in ink, thanks
Wrong--that is the truth according to the bible! Not one of those verses says they were together for the porpoise of worshipping on that day.
Funny those are the very same ones we use to prove there was no worshipping on Sundays!! The only times Sundays are mentioned is when something out of the ordinary happened on those days!
- Jesus rose on the first day of the week not the Sabbath: Mk 16:9--Right, even on the sabbath He rested!
- All 6 appearances of Jesus happen on two Sundays, none on Sabbath. Mk 16:9; Mt 28:5-9; Lk 24:34; Lk 24:13-15; Lk 24:33,36 + Jn 20:19; Jn 20:26---Exactly! He was keeping the Sabbath with the disciples!
- Christians are recorded assembling three times on Sunday after resurrection and before ascension, never on the Sabbath. Jn 20:19 Jn 20:26 Acts 2:1 (We do not claim that these were worship services, just the early starting point of Sunday gatherings)Right--they were not worshipping on these days! And they make one big mistake--they are not using how the bible counts for days-it is evening to morning--meeting on Sat. night, In other words--the 1st day of the week begins Sundown Saturday night.
- The only time Christians are recorded to have assembled together was on a Sunday in Acts 20:7, never does it say the disciples assembled on the Sabbath.-- Right!! Only time! Same as above-they met on Saturday night, the beginning of the 1st day of the week, and Paul preached until midnight. He didn't preach from Sunday morning until midnight! That isn't a sermon, that's a filibuster! He reached from sundown Saturday night until midnight. Still a mighty long sermon! They ate and then he preached some more--until the morning---which would have been Sunday morning. If Paul had kept Sunday-he would not have traveled that day. And if he had meant Monday morning, it would then have been the 2nd day of the week. In other words-they met after Sundown Saturday night (evening Sabbath vespers as it were!)
- The only day ever mentioned when Christians broke bread was on Sunday: Acts 20:7--Right--Same as above
- Christians are commanded every Sunday to give into a common treasury of the church: 1 Cor 16:1-2---not exactly--they were commanded to gather the money on Sunday-what they had to give from the previous weeks' of labor--and hold it for when Paul came so as to not to gather money together at the time he came, but have it ready for Paul when he came by on Sunday on his way to Jerusalem--If he had kept Sunday he would not have traveled on Sunday.
- Jesus was declared the Son of God on Sunday: Rom 1:4--He was resurrected on Sunday-declaring with that act that He was indeed the Son of God--it has already been established He resurrected on Sunday--resting on the Sabbath.
- Ps 2:7 "Today I have begotten thee" was fulfilled on Sunday when he rose: Acts 13:33--Right, He still rested on the Sabbath.
- The sign that Jesus was glorified was given on Sunday: Jn 7:39 + Acts 2:1,32--Still nothing to suggest that Jesus said to worship on that day instead of the Sabbath. They would have observed the Sabbath before Pentecost.
- The church officially began on Pentecost Sunday: Acts 2:1--They were together in one accord on the day of Pentecost for that purpose-not to have Sabbath wordship.
- Jesus was crowned king on a Sunday: Acts 2:33-36---Right--Would not have been crowned on the Sabbath.
- The disciples reception of the promise of the Father on Sunday: Acts 1:4-5; 2:1-4
- The Holy Spirit first fell upon the apostles on a Sunday: Acts 2:1-4
- Salvation first preached by Peter on Sunday: Mt 16:19; Acts 2:1,38,40-41
- The Keys to the Kingdom of God were first used on Sunday: Mt 16:19
- The great "Triumphal entry" (also called "Palm Sunday") happened on the first day: Luke 13:32--Absolutely--Christ would not have done so on a Sabbath!
- The time between the Lord's resurrection (sheaf waving day) and Pentecost was Sunday to Sunday counting of 50 days. The starting and stopping time was on the 1st day.
- First time Jesus worshiped after resurrection was on the first day by Thomas (Jn. 20:26). Doesn't say a word about worship. They were together on the first day of the week--at evening-meaning again it was on a Saturday night. Then they got together 8 days later--which would have been Sunday night--if they had gathered together first on Sunday night--8 days later would have been Monday.
- The first time we could be born again to a living hope was on a Sunday: 1 Pet. 1:3
- The first time Jesus had communion after his resurrection with His disciples, was on a Sunday: (Lk. 24:1, 13, 28-35)That was not communion--they were having dinner!!
- Pentecost was a Sunday - Sunday duration of 50 days. The starting point and stopping point of counting the 50 days was a Sunday - Sunday period!--Yes--And??? Nothing to do with Sabbath!
I skipped some--didn't really see any relevance to Sabbath.
OK--have to say this---I have diabetic neuropathy in my hands, I can't direct them too well--it takes me forever to type anything. I used to type 80 words a minute with maybe one mistake--I now can't type a little sentence without mistakes--sometimes not even one word! I proof read about 3-4 times and still don't catch all mistakes. Sorry I take so long--I do the best I can. I keep doing this because it is good therapy for my hands.
Yes--but the first time He created Sabbath there were no Jews!! And when Jesus said Sabbath was made for man--He did not say Sabbath was made for Jews..
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